Posted on 08/15/2012 4:01:21 AM PDT by LD Jackson
This is something I have mulled over a long time. I touched on it in a comment on Country Thinker's post yesterday, but I would like to elaborate just a bit.
I know Mitt Romney has many detractors. Many conservatives and libertarians question his conservative credentials, myself included. I questioned them in 2007 and I questioned them during the GOP primary. I still have reservations about how conservative he would be as President of the United States. I contend there are other things to consider, besides his fiscal conservatism.
There are many people who are going to refuse to vote for Mitt Romney, based on his record in Massachusetts. That is their privilege and I would not dare to denigrate their choice. There are also those who will refuse to vote for him on the basis of the theory that he would be worse for our country than Barack Obama. One of the co-authors on Political Realities holds that opinion, but I have seen many other commentators put the same sentiment in writing. This post is not an attack on their position, and certainly not an attack on Ted, but I want to explain why I disagree so strongly with that belief.
Since Barack Obama took office, it has been one disaster after another. He made a promise to bring the nation together while he was campaigning, but he has done just the opposite. Remember how he interjected himself into the issue of racism over the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr.? He couldn't help himself and said the police acted stupidly. Instead of allowing local authorities to handle the situation, he just had to get involved. Did this help our country or did it just stoke Obama's ego? Would Mitt Romney have responded in such a brash manner?
Remember the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? One of the things Barack Obama did in response to the BP oil spill was to declare a moratorium on drilling in the Gulf. Safety concerns were slighted. When the moratorium was challenged in court, it was thrown out. Obama was ordered to lift the ban, yet he ignored the court order. The challenge was brought forth because the ban was hurting a lot of people. Jobs and incomes were lost. The court ruled Obama had insufficient cause to issue the moratorium and struck it down. The President didn't agree with the order, so he refused to comply. It was done in accordance with our judicial system, but the President simply wouldn't go along. Ask yourself how Mitt Romney would have reacted.
Moving on to health care, Barack Obama has issued new requirements that call for birth control to be available to all women as part of their health insurance. Disregarding that birth control is available for very little cost, the President did his part for the women of America. Using authority that was buried deep inside Obamacare, he is now forcing religious organizations that believe birth control is a sin to provide it as part of the health insurance they provide for their employees. In doing so, religious freedom was severely damaged. Is it not safe to say Mitt Romney would have not issued such a policy directive?
Let's look at the President's liberal use of executive orders to change existing law, or to create new law. Immigration anyone? Barack Obama has completely changed the way illegal immigration is handled on the federal level. Because of the policy changes he has affected by executive order, many illegal immigrants no longer have to worry about being deported.
The President did the same thing with welfare reform. Our current law on welfare reform was crafted and passed during the Clinton years and it has worked since then to lower the number of people on welfare. It was widely declared to be a success, due in large part because of the work requirement built into the law. That requirement was strict because Congress made it thus. They wrote the law in such a way that it prevented waivers from granted for the work requirement. Barack Obama must have disagreed with that part of the law, because he magically found a way he could change the law. He issued a new policy directive that allows states to apply for waivers to the very requirement that made the law such a success.
Both of these examples show one of the main reasons why I believe Barack Obama is so dangerous for America. In using the principles of conduct he has applied to both issues, he has shown a complete and total disregard for the American system of government. Instead of working with Congress to affect any changes he may want, he simply took it upon himself to make those changes. In other words, he bypassed Congress and did what he wanted to do, and never mind the Constitution.
Ask yourself a simple question. Would Mitt Romney have done the same thing, or would he have worked within our system of government to change the laws he wanted to change?
As you can see, there are many things to consider, other than Mitt Romney and his lack of fiscal conservatism. I believe there is a large gap between how Romney would conduct himself as President, when compared to how Barack Obama has used his office. That difference is more than enough to convince me to vote for Mitt Romney.
I am convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a second term for Barack Obama would be a complete and total disaster for America. Much worse than his first four years. He has shown himself to be willing to bypass the Constitution and do things his own way. That being the case, how will he conduct himself in his second term, knowing he has no worries about reelection?
For all the reasons I have stated, and then some, the theory that somehow Mitt Romney would be worse than Barack Obama simply does not work for me.
Notice how the left NEVER does this BS. Remember all those supposed outraged Hillary voters bitter from the primaries?
The so called PUMAS? Guess what - they all voted ZERO and we got the worst president of all time akin to Thulsa Doom from Conana the Barbarian
“Liberal Obama would be a lame duck with the GOP firmly positioned against him.”
Dont make me laugh. Do you really think Mr Executive Order is going to spend the next 4 years as a lame duck...doing nothing? You’re delusional.
Amen. Thank you for stating it so succinctly. Someone will be taking the oath next January. That person will be making Supreme Court nominations and setting the foreign policy and domestic policy in a very critical time. Anyone in a swing state who does not get Romney and other conservatives in office at this time is not an ally. They are working for the enemy. Those in the situation of sitting in solid red and blue states can vote on principle in the Presidential election and support conservatives in the House and Senate, the rest of us have to be practical.
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Agree that America needs a conservative POTUS.
Can you enumerate the process to get that POTUS starting from the position that we are concurrently in?
A few suggestions of the process would be helpful. Awaiting your plan.
Take care
Larry Kudlow was on John Batchelor last night and they were discussing this thing reported by Stanley Kurtz about Obama plan to rob the suburbs.
Frightening.
So now it’s getting down to if a person doesn’t vote for Myth they don’t have any skin in the game and receive hand outs? I for one do have to make payroll as I try and scratch a living from the dirt. These economy destroying actions of this regime have been very difficult to deal with let alone 2 years of drought. These idiots want to take my water and dictate what I can and cannot do with my land. I still will not vote for a man of Romney’s record.
Finally - for all those bitching about Romney - maybe Yall should have united behind Santorum, Newt, or Bachmann and not split your votes.
The candidates didnt help either. I’m tired of hearing Mitt was selected not elected. Just to refresh everyone’s memory the rest of the candidates were busy clawing at each other instead of trying to defeat Mitt. Even at the end when Newt could have made a real difference, Santorum refused to step aside. Mitt wasnt my 1st 2nd or 3rd choice but as mature adults, we now rally behind the candidate.
Obama is very frightening. I see the evil in him. I dont understand how so many on this site cant see it and view Mitt as more of the threat. It’s insane.
I hear your anguish though I am not one that tends the earth, similar tradesmen though that I take the earth and make concrete with it.
And my business is nearly over the edge of survivability.
All I can do is be very watchful, make no mistakes, keep the equipment clean and in running order, and just keep the expenses to the barest minimum.
I have no heart, no desire to get all enthused about any lackluster candidate, too busy just trying to survive, but should somebody throw some dough my way I could find time to get all “activised”.
Obama not accountable to the voters for a another election is beyond frightening. He will have total control to burn this nation to the ground.
By Wayne Allyn Root Barack Hussein Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S.. Economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.
I have not posted on this argument yet but as I do so I have this bizarre feeling of coming out of the closet as a conservative in a conservative forum.
***Weird feeling, isn’t it? I’m not sure JimRob is aware of just how many CINOs are operating on this website.
“This is why the people claiming piety and holy status by giving Obama a second term need to really consider the consequences of their actions above and beyond their hatred for Romney.”
It’s ridiculous, really. Politics and personal morality are separate, and you put both at risk by mixing them as they do.
According to the folks to which you refer, a Theocracy would be the ultimate ideal.
Politics is ultimately about an ugly winding path of compromise and deal-making until you achieve as much of your ultimate goal as is possible.
Morality either is or isn’t.
The policy of this site is now to mix politics and morality for no other apparent reason than because Romney is Mormon, and some folks just can’t stand Mormons for their own reasons that make no sense from the political goal that should be paramount.
Maybe he's fully aware the conservatism is not a doctrine.
No, wait. Liberals do what we just cant seem to do, since were so high and mighty. They circle the wagons, were too busy in a circular firing squad. Hold out for that perfect (non-existent) conservative, no matter what!
Right.
What do you mean?
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In response to GOP Proud (Queer eye and RINO guy for the TPP) ^ | Nov 14, 2010 | Jim Robinson
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:13:16 PM by Jim Robinson
Edited on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:09:46 PM by Jim Robinson. [history]
One more time:
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This election is about Rescue and Recovery - not a judgment of morality on peoples’ souls.
This is almost like when you hear about people who deny their dying children any medicine for religious reasons and then claim holier than thou status afterwards.
Not this year - the stakes are far too high.
The policy of this site is now to mix politics and morality for no other apparent reason than because Romney is Mormon, and some folks just cant stand Mormons for their own reasons that make no sense from the political goal that should be paramount.
***That’s the policy? Where is it stated?
“Not this year - the stakes are far too high.”
Agreed. This isn’t a hold-your-nose year for conservatives because the candidate stinks, this is a hold your breath year so we don’t drown in a communist cesspool.
The premise you are sick of many of us firmly believe.
***Argle bargle.
stealing directly from Kent
Once youve finally managed to define conservative downwards to the point where all it means literally, the ONLY thing it still means is Not Obama: then youre no longer part of any coherent, principled or intellectually defensible political ideology.
All youre doing, at that point, is taking part in an imbecilic, nation-wide version of Shirts Vs. Skins.
Which is absolutely fine. For children.
Ive seen so deplorably many FReepers, on this thread, proudly fetishizing their fears; maniacally attempting, literally, to OUT-DO their fellows in some freakish, Dodo-esque attempt to come out (ultimately) as Craven Coward Numero Uno.
(I fear The Kenyan so impossibly much, Id vote for CThulhu and all his assorted Elder Gods, instead! Booga-Booga-Booga! If you wouldnt gleefully chop your own grandchildren up into mincemeat and then fry up and messily gobble the remains in order to vote for Mitt Romney, then YOU DONT FEAR OBAMA ENOUGH TO LOVE AMERICA AND *ARRGLE*BLARRGLE*AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!)
Ive never seen sweaty, bug-eyed cowardice unalloyed and unabashed elevated, by a delusional few, into an actual exemplar of patriotic reason (or whatever), before this thread.
Would that I had gone quite a bit longer still, before being accorded such an opportunity... particularly on Free Republic.
3,401 posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:36:06 PM by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If youre not fiscally AND socially conservative, youre not conservative! - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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