“The 12 claimed FReeper researchers who believe that Barry was born somewhere other than Kenya outside the US and that he was fathered by Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have a lot of explaining to do...”
Per Brown Deer:
“That's quite an accusation. Who are these 12 FReepers?”
To Brown Deer:
That is not an accusation of any kind. It is only a recounting of what has been claimed by others on FR public eligibility threads.
My recommendation is that however many believers in the Mal-Val CT “researchers” there are remaining, they should start their own threads instead of hijacking other threads which assume at a minimum that Stanley Ann Dunham is Barry's mom and that he lived with her from when he was born until he started Punahou at age 10.
The Mal-Val believers frequently jump into threads out of the blue and make unsubstantiated claims in a special coded language but having the meaning of the following when decoded:
“Stanley Ann was not Barry's mother!”
“Stanley Ann was never in Hawaii before 1963!”
“Stanley Ann never went to U of WA or U of HI before 1963”
“Roman Obama is the original Barack H. Obama who was switched with the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf at age three or four in HI and went back to Kenya with BHO Sr and Ruth”
“Roman Obama was the son of BHO Sr.’s unknown Filipina wife”
“David Obama never existed!”
“Mark Ndesand’s picture of him and his dead brother David in a studia is actually a picture of Barry and Roman Obama!”
“Mark Ndesand’s picture of his family obviously taken at very nearly the same time as the studio picture c 1970 is actually a picture of Roman and Mark, NOT Mark and David”
“Roman Obama was substituted for Malik Obama in the household of BHO Sr. and Ruth in 1965”
I could go on...
If any “researchers” would like to come forward and correct me and my interpretation of their code (they use alternate confusing names for these people) I would welcome it but I would really welcome them starting their own dedicated threads. Just my personal opinion and request.
You forgot
when you ask them to stay on topic they attack! Infact even attacked Lucyt who wasn’t even on Fr for the day.
“Stanley Ann was not Barry’s mother!”
Without a birth certificate that isn’t an obvious forgery, there’s no evidence who his mother was.
“Stanley Ann was never in Hawaii before 1963!”
Without any physical evidence that she was in Hawaii before 1963, no one can say she was.
“Stanley Ann never went to U of WA or U of HI before 1963”
All that places her in Hawaii in Fall of 1960 is a letter from the U of HI that gives an ENROLLMENT DATE.
It’s possible this enrollment relates to the Ann S Obama shown in the Polk. No one can know if that was Stanley Ann Dunham, and the daughter of the Pratt family who shared the house, now tells us, thanks to Maraniss, there was no daughter nor baby there...
“Roman Obama is the original Barack H. Obama who was switched with the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf at age three or four in HI and went back to Kenya with BHO Sr and Ruth”
The boy who is the older, darker boy in the two little boys image, appears to be about seven months older, and as he resembles the kenyan student, and Mary said she baby-sat for ANNA OBAMA in January 1961, it’s a fairly safe bet to assume that child was the one they were thinking of having adopted out. That they didn’t is attested to by the photograph. He then shows up in Kenya with Ruth and the kenyan in a family group. The remainder is a dangerous extrapolation from a variety of comments from a number of freepers, and cannot be attributed to anyone in particular, as you are attempting do do. It’s not only ridiculous, it’s reprehensible.
“Roman Obama was the son of BHO Sr.’s unknown Filipina wife”
The kenyan is shown sitting next to a girl identified as ANN/USA in a photograph at the Nachmanoffs, Neil Abercrombie says he remembers Ann, Kiri Tith remembers Ann but doesn’t remember her going out with the kenyan. Some people who looked at the photograph commented that the girl Ann appeared to be asian. Some suggested Filipino. Myself I am uncertain.
“David Obama never existed!”
That’s a fair assumption when you see that Mark misidentifies both of the two boys on his website, then changes their images to make them appear more like they might be brothers, then removes the images altogether, and the birth and death years of this mythical ‘David’ are all over the place and no one can find hide nor hair of him.
“Mark Ndesand’s picture of him and his dead brother David in a studia is actually a picture of Barry and Roman Obama!”
I post the images for all to see and make up their own minds. One boy just happens to be a twin to zero and the other shows up in Kenya to ultimately go to the Lumumba University...and he’s the spitting image of his father. Not my problem. It is what it is.
“Mark Ndesand’s picture of his family obviously taken at very nearly the same time as the studio picture c 1970 is actually a picture of Roman and Mark, NOT Mark and David”
You really really fell of your rocking horse with that one. It’s such a blatantly dishonest statement I won’t dignify it with a retort.
“Roman Obama was substituted for Malik Obama in the household of BHO Sr. and Ruth in 1965”
Some reports (Sally Jacobs book iirc) have it that both Malik and Auma lived with Ruth and the kenyan in Nairobi. Someone then pointed out that was rather unlikely (upthread a way) as Kezia stated she didn’t know who Ruth was until she visited her ‘husband’ in hospital after one of his car accidents, which was years later...
I could go on...
I’m sure you can, and every time you do ‘go on’ you get yourself more into a tangle and show just how deceitful you are. Do continue.
If any “researchers” would like to come forward and correct me and my interpretation of their code (they use alternate confusing names for these people) I would welcome it but I would really welcome them starting their own dedicated threads. Just my personal opinion and request.
There is no code, if names are mentioned (something I do not recall doing) then the names are FREEPER NAMES.
As for staying on topic, I suggest you go back to the threads that went to over NINE AND TEN THOUSAND COMMENTS for which the subject topic was nothing more than the BIRTH CERTIFICATE and see how a large number of members of FreeRepublic strayed - in an effort to understand what was going on. There were NO COMPLAINTS then and there should not be any complaints NOW.
Some interesting revelation for the uneducated American people, but not for me, because that is some of the prediction from people like Krustev and others I heard years ago!
The nose jobb, like Michael Jackson had also makes sense!!
The 6oth hippies have succeeded in the communist agenda!!!