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To: bluecat6; hoosiermama
Anyone who works with orphans or ‘at risk’ kids will tell you how easy it is to get judges and courts to to approve records updating when it ‘benefits the child’ . And in Hawaii it was probably even easier.

BTDT. They will rubber stamp blatant lies whether it benefits the child, the court or just because it's Tuesday which means that something BIG was needed of Sr. that couldn't be handled with a legally signed and witnessed statement from Kenya. There was something that needed him in HI in person for over a month on the Dunhams' dime. That means there is a case file with court dockets and schedules with the judge and parties named along with their attorneys, there are attorney files, there are documents filed in the clerk's office, there are index books in both the family court and the county clerk's office, the health dept, etc. There could also be something in the criminal court records. It's all there in the old dusty boxes unless those have been made to disappear. It's very easy to walk out with these old files. Bound indexes are hard to fix so it's easier to make the entire book disappear. An investigative team would have to have full access to be able to see where the holes are during Christmas '71 and back say the six months prior. If "Dreams" is to be believed (cough), the Dunhams weren't happy about Sr. being there so they had to have exhausted every means to proceed with whatever it was without his presence so there has to be a paper trail before his arrival. They may have spoken to a number of attorneys and been in front of more than one judge.

379 posted on 07/24/2012 7:38:02 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill; bluecat6; Brown Deer; advertising guy; LucyT; rolling_stone; maggief
See bgill's post it's a big
YES!

383 posted on 07/24/2012 8:38:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: bgill; hoosiermama

Agree totally.

I do know a former federal judge who was an orphan. Not until he was in his 40s did he finally find the actual facts of his past with specific names and dates. The actual facts were buried deep as was normal for orphans but they where still there - if you knew where to look.

Here - since the child was 10 and the parties all knew each other there would not be the usual need to seal everything everything up to protect or hide birth mothers, etc. But would they still seal the case or cases? Especially if it involved names changes and identity changes? Isn’t one of the purposes of sealing cases of adopted children to keep multiple identities of of the same one person from floating around in the legal, government world?

So could it be that even though the Dunhams did everything mentioned the case might be sealed?

I always remember Gov. Lingle saying or maybe the media implying that SHE had sealed Obamas BC. I have always thought that they maybe sealed but it was not done by Lingle. Instead the records are sealed by a judge with a legitimate reason to do so - like legal name changes.

Something happened in 1971 and some newspaper clippings are not going to explain it away.


387 posted on 07/24/2012 9:06:25 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bgill
...It's very easy to walk out with these old files. Bound indexes are hard to fix so it's easier to make the entire book disappear...

You are right on the ball there, I always maintained if it was possible to see the family court records, the entire story would fall out of the dusty boxes...but there's not much hope of that, is there?

419 posted on 07/24/2012 5:11:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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