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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; bluecat6; Seizethecarp
Which begs the question, if SAD did provide a BC to prove his ID when she was ultimately given custody March 20, 1964, why the need to forge a BC NOW?

The scenario that's emerging for me is this:

BO is born in Kenya.

Underage, unwed mom Stanley provides him with statutory U.S. citizenship and this enables him to get a Hawaiian BC (under "secondary proof of U.S. citizenship" as described at travel.state.gov).

So therefore BO is a "citizen at birth" but only by statute.

Stanley marries Lolo Soetoro, goes to Indonesia, BO is sent back to Hawai'i in 1970.

For some reason there is a custody or citizenship issue and BO Sr. is escorted into and out of the picture to assist in this matter (1971).

BO effectively renounces U.S. citizenship by traveling under a foreign passport or applying for school aid as a foreigner.

BO waves his (statutory) U.S. citizenship papers to show eligibility for his Illinois Senate (earlier I'd said House, my error) and U.S. Senate bids. But, these documents are no longer legally valid because of things that have taken place since his birth.

BO campaigns for President, and now under scrutiny, needs to come up with a version or two of a birth certificate showing he was born on U.S. soil. He totally disregards the fact that his foreign national father renders him ineligible for the office.

It's a mess.

293 posted on 07/22/2012 10:51:01 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Have you read the “Auntie” thread?

Assuming that the parentage told in “Dreams” is correct is taking the wrong tack. By looking at evidence, such as it is, without preconceptions about who his parents are, is the way to go.


294 posted on 07/22/2012 10:57:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: thecodont

And at the expense of stirring into a white-hot rage some people who post here, I’ll come back to where I started before the identity of one photograph out of 16 became a major issue...

The Tax Return shows that Mr & Mrs Soetoro didn’t claim the child named as Barack Hussein Obama 2 on the divorce from the kenyan, as a dependant child...and in the absence of a birth certificate that isn’t an abstract ( a bit from here and a bit from there) how can anyone be certain where that child was born and who his parents were?

How is it possible to identify Stanley Ann Dunham as his mother?


301 posted on 07/23/2012 2:07:13 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM...)
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To: thecodont

Good post.

This is where I am at.

I just continue to have a challenge with the Kenya birth. The logistics seem to be a stretch and there is no apparent evidence that Obama Sr and SAD had any deep relationship that would led to her going to ‘meet the parents’. Especially since he had a wife and child already in Kenya.

I believe the most damning revelation would be that he used foreign passports to travel in the late 1969s. Again, when you enter the US you MUST present a US passport if you are a US citizen. No ifs, ands or buts about this rule. Lack of any proof of a US passport AND entry into the US on a foreign passport would be a big problem.

In 1969 there is the Christmas time (see the background) picture with Scott Inoue. Barry/Barack Obama/Soetoro (II) was supposed to be living in Indonesia. Did he make a holiday visit to the US? If so, what passport did he travel on?

http://theobamadiary.com/2009/12/29/scott-barry-3rd-grade-1969/

“...an old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School...”

This photo is a problem in many ways. Either he traveled to and from Indonesia and visited with old classmates at school. Thus, there would be INS/passport records that would clarify the questions raised. OR was he already (always) living in Hawaii?


307 posted on 07/23/2012 8:23:35 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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