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An entire year has passed and now I find a comment relating to the Tax Returns filed by Mr & Mrs Soetoro in Hawaii, in which they only claimed to have one dependant child named Maya:

To: SatinDoll

Page 168 of 182

1973 Individual Income Tax Return, State of Hawaii.

EXEMPTIONS: Line 2: First names and ages of your dependent children, give address if they did not live with you.

Maya

Enter number of children named: 1

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SAD Soetoro lost custody of BHO II in 1970 when he returned to Hawaii, alone. BHO’s II SSN application was filed by his case manager of the American Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut because they had legal custody of him throughout the 1970’s.

21 posted on Monday, 11 July 2011 11:01:36 PM by SvenMagnussen

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Perhaps now we might try to understand what Sven has been trying to tell us, and follow what it was that Madelyn Dunham meant when she told Virginia Goeldner the reason they had been bringing up zero was because HIS MOTHER DIED IN 1970.

(She didn't die, she lost custody.)

You don't need to be a retired CPA like me to know that a list of eligible dependent children on a tax return is not in any way a list of children in your legal custody, either sole or shared. All you need is an ex-wife to know that.

I don't know the 1973 HI state income tax code, but nationally states mostly mirror the federal rules for dependents, it they have an income tax.

If the child lives with you, as Maya did, she is pretty automatically an eligible dependent. If the child does not live with you, you typically must claim to have provided over 50% of the support for the child or have a court order awarding you the right to claim the child on your return because only one tax filer can claim the child (assert having provided over 50% of the support for the child).

On this 1973 HI return, Lolo and S. Ann are filing jointly and are claiming as a dependent only their daughter Maya who is living with them.

They are NOT admitting or declaring that S. Ann does not have custody of Barry, only that he is not living with them and they are not claiming him as a dependent.

I would expect that the Dunham grandparents claimed Barry on their return as a dependent child as he was living with them at the time.

My ex-wife and I passed a child back and forth several times and whoever had him got to claim him as a dependent but we had joint custody at all times.

Note, again, that in the divorce decree, one child of the marriage over age 18 (unnamed) is listed for Lolo and Stanley Ann. In documents on the record that I have seen there was no loss of custody of Barry by her at any time before age 18.

Something mysterious happened with BHO Sr. in 1971, probably pertaining to Barry's Kenyan potential dual citizenship in the newly founded independent nation and possible rights and benefits for Barry. After all, BHO Sr. got financial aid for study in the US as a Kenyan student. That 1971 visit might not have had anything to do with custody, but only with preserving/validating Kenyan citizenship...possibly based on birth in Kenya. Stanley Ann was keen on Barry's future education and did place him in the most prestigious school in HI with the help of grandma.

There is not a chapter in Dreams about this?

Of course not.

The media has not investigated this period of Obama’s life?

Of course not.

We documented (real or unreal) periods with these names

1961-1967 - Barack Obama
1967 - 1971 - Barry Soetoro
1975 - 1980 - Barry Obama
1981 - Present - Barack Obama

Yet nothing official that documents the legal and formal transition from one name (identity) to another.

By getting ‘back to the beginning’ does that make the other 2 periods null and void with no documentation?

As Einstein once said - “God abhors a vacuum”. So should the American people.

Correct. BHO II was in the legal custody Catholic Social Services of Connecticut from late 1971, early 1972 until he reached the age of majority Aug. 4, 1979. Madelyn Payne was appointed BHO’s II guardian, commonly referred to as his foster mother.

Neither SAD Soetoro or Madelyn Payne Dunham could claim BHO II as a dependent on their tax return from 1972 until 1979 because BHO II was a ward of the U.S. Federal Foster care system. Madelyn Payne Dunham, BHO’s II foster mother and grandmother, received monthly stipends and food stamps to provide for the basic needs of BHO II through HI Dept of Children’s and Families Services, commonly referred to as the welfare office.

Only children with foreign nationality are accepted by the U.S. Federal Foster care system. BHO II returned to Hawaii in 1971 as an Indonesian National and an unaccompanied minor arriving at a U.S. Port of Entry. Unaccompanied Minors with foreign nationality are taken into Federal protective custody by INS and are not waved through Customs to the awaiting arms of some old white lady. Any conversation about Obama’s birthplace or his birth certificate is a distraction to take the emphasis off Obama’s nationality in 1971 to 1979. Obama naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in 1983 and that is why he is ineligible to be POTUS.

This is the first time I have seen the Soetoro's tax return. Thank you for posting it.

From "Obama's Hawaii Neighborhood"
obamasneighborhood.com
("Presumably" no one on the route remembers any of them.)

On the end of the block, on the right hand side, you'll see 1839 Poki Street, where Obama's mother lived with Barry's sister, Maya. Presumably, Obama, who lived a few blocks away with his grandparents, would often visit. Backtrack to Punahou Street past Wilder one block and turn left on Dole Street. Walk two blocks to Alexander Street and take a right. Just around the corner is 1427 Alexander Street where the elder Dunhams (Barry's grandparents) lived in 1963. Presumably young Barry visited his grandparents at this site as well.