[cuban leaf]

Nothing justifies what happened there.

However, it did not justify us going all “founding fathers” on our government either.

Thing is, they can only get away with so much before people DO go all “founding fathers” on them. Claire Wolfe famously said, “America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

This was in the 90’s

I still think we are at that awkward stage, but when I don’t, I’ll be Mel Gibson in The Patriot. But it took significant personal events to turn him around. Likewise here.

[fr_freak]

I still think we are at that awkward stage, but when I don’t, I’ll be Mel Gibson in The Patriot. But it took significant personal events to turn him around. Likewise here.

Well, I guess that's where we differ. I believe in our founding principles, and it doesn't take a personal tragedy for me to see the need for remedial action. Every time our government craps on the Constitution, I take it personally. I was pissed 20 years ago because I saw then what it meant and what it would inevitably lead to. I have just been waiting for the rest of the country to catch up.