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To: Seizethecarp
"Obama cites US v Marguet-Pillado. Dicta implies Obama eligible even if born in Kenya"

We can conclude after over 4 years that the US judiciary will dishonestly misconstrue again and again and ignore past Supreme Court Opinions about natural born citizens. They are psychologically flawed, especially when they are political cases that concern the left and Obama. We see it time after time.

US v. Marguet-Pillado "dicta" does not overcome these Supreme Court cases that conclude natural born citizen and their holdings.

For many examples.

1814 The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch

1830 Shanks v. Dupont, 28 1830 Inglis v. Sailors’ Snug Harbor

1857 Dred Scott v. Sandford, as an example, where it cites Vattel directly:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society, bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority; they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.”

Again:

“I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen, for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are foreigners who are permitted to settle and stay in the country.”

Enough of snippets to keep this post short. ...

To continue Supreme Court cases that honestly understand natural born citizens:

1872 Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S.

1875 Minor v. Happersett

1884 Elk v. Wilkins

1939, Elg v. Perkins

1964 Schneider v. Rusk

We know they are dead wrong and they know it too. These Supreme Court cases, in totality, above prove it.

49 posted on 07/03/2012 1:02:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
“US v. Marguet-Pillado ‘dicta’ does not overcome these Supreme Court cases that conclude natural born citizen and their holdings.”

I agree as to foreign birth being an exclusionary condition for NBC, other than for children of diplomats and arguably for children of active military as claimed by the Senate for McCain in a non-binding resolution.

And yet similarly worthless dicta in the Ankeny state appeals court case has been cited to keep Barry on the ballot in several states based on an assumed HI birth and only one US citizen parent.

This is why I believe that only a criminal conspiracy to hide Barry's foreign birth can be counted on to oust Barry in the court of public opinion.

Sheriff Arpaio appears to be insinuating that his posse has found exactly such evidence. I don't believe that the Marguet-Pillado dicta gambit will save Barry if foreign birth or definitive non-HI birth is proved by Arpaio.

50 posted on 07/03/2012 2:45:30 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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