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To: edge919
He cites the 14th ( conflating citizen with natural-born citizen ). So if citizen were the same as natural-born citizen as Lewis claims, then the 14th could be rewritten as :

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are natural born citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Does Lewis seriously believe that a naturalized citizen ( one born out of the US ) is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president ?

20 posted on 07/02/2012 7:37:15 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: TheCipher
Does Lewis seriously believe that a naturalized citizen ( one born out of the US ) is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president ?

I doubt it. He's another intellectually dishonest judge among many who now infect the US judiciary and who have spines made of jelly.

30 posted on 07/02/2012 9:10:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TheCipher; edge919

“He cites the 14th ( conflating citizen with natural-born citizen ).”

That is because the US Supreme Court says the 14th and the NBC clause are interchangeable:

“The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, “All persons born in the United States” by the addition “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases — children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State — both of which, as has already been shown [in their previous discussion on the NBC clause], by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country. Calvin’s Case, 7 Rep. 1, 18b; Cockburn on Nationality, 7; Dicey Conflict of Laws, 177; Inglis v. Sailors’ Snug Harbor, 3 Pet. 99, 155; 2 Kent Com. 39, 42.

The principles upon which each of those exceptions rests were long ago distinctly stated by this court. [p683]”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


32 posted on 07/02/2012 9:16:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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