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To: Lakeshark; BlackElk; Norm Lenhart; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; ...

I do not intend to vote for either Obama or Romney. I will instead vote for the conservative candidate, the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode.

What prevents conservatives from voting for a conservative candidate? Fear. In this case, it’s fear of doing something different, because if conservatives did something different, then it just might not work out.

Those who vote for Goode know the numbers. They know that a conservative candidate could win if conservatives were to stick together and support him.

Therefore, the issue is not that there are, as fearful conservatives continue to say, “only 2 candidates in this race.” No, there are at least 4 at this moment: Johnson, Goode, Romney, Obama.

No, the issue is those conservatives who are voting for a radical liberal and pretending to themselves that he is not a radical liberal. It is not possible to go forward by going backward. The truth is that they lose whether they support Romney or Obama, and the nation suffers with either.

Look at Megan McCain, Lake. She is the future of the GOP-E: A radical, leftist, pro-gay, pro-abortion feminist. And she is young and only just starting.

The issue is that conservatives keep doing the GOP-E thing, and they keep getting the GOP-E result.

It’s sad that they could band together around someone who believes like them, but they instead choose to band together around a liberal, and they castigate those conservatives who stay true to their principles.

“We can’t do something different!” they say. “Why, there’s this AntiChrist in charge, and the sky will fall if we do anything different. So...I know we don’t trust the liberal GOP-E,but.... we’re going to trust the liberal GOP-E.”

You have no vision. I understand you perfectly. I smell.....fear.


102 posted on 06/20/2012 2:39:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins; All

“Look at Megan McCain, Lake. She is the future of the GOP-E: A radical, leftist, pro-gay, pro-abortion feminist. And she is young and only just starting.”

Every election since Reagan, the party has gone farther and farther left. The demarcation of what is the political center has likewise moved left with it.

Compared to MR, McCain was a conservative zealot. The GOP has adopted the ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ philosophy of the left. For years they have edged off the conservative platform they themselves wrote. They as a party (shown by the likes/support for the Grahmm/Bhonner Republicans) have long wanted the cheap labor of illegals and any number of decidedly non-conservative outcomes. We have watched them be forced into one political corner after another by a base that sees things opposite of their ‘leadership’.

But now they are in a situation where they have what they believe is the ultimate rationalization as displayed by Lakeshark and others. Either vote for the man who will deliver unto them the things they’ve longed for or be stuck with the evil of Obama. They have used the lib philosophy of the invented crisis (invented as they pushed MR knowing he was unwanted/opposed) to create what is on the surface a catch 22 scenario for the resistive base.

But it isn’t.

The whole strategy rests on our belief in America. If Obama is reelected, it’s gone. Fair enough. But what “IS” America? Is it a place where illegals run free as a serf class for labor? Is it a place where we abandon sovrignity for a globalist worldview? Is it a place where crony is the prefered form of capitalism? Is it a place where we put the rights of gays over hetros and of children? Is it a place where abortion is an a’la carte menu choice at McClinic?

That’s not an America envisioned by the constitution. It’s not an America that has anything in common with the founding fathers. It’s not anything like the America we all grew up in just a few short decades ago.

That’s not America period. And it’s not a bastardization that any person who believes in good, evil right and wrong can honestly vote for.

I will vote for America as it was and should be again. And should enough ‘conservatives’ not take their heads out of their dark place, then so be it. America as it stood is well and truly over. That’s not hyperbole. That’s a by the amendments constitutional fact.


103 posted on 06/20/2012 3:14:22 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins; Norm Lenhart; BlackElk; SoConPubbie
I get it, "the Dwarves is for the Dwarves" is your official motto.

I did notice how each one of you carefully (deliberately) avoided answering my question........and shan't forget, nor will others who are reading this exchange.

Best of luck to you all, so few Dwarves, 'tis a pity.......

105 posted on 06/20/2012 5:28:45 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: xzins
I love when people write an articulate and reasoned statement demonstrating they do not suffer from BHOhysteria and/or BHOphobia.
113 posted on 06/20/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: xzins; Lakeshark; BlackElk; Norm Lenhart; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; ...
I do not intend to vote for either Obama or Romney. I will instead vote for the conservative candidate, the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode.
So even among the minority of conservatives who reject the principle of ABO, there is no agreement on a candidate.

The <1%'ers are going to divide their vote in half!

On April 10, 2012, when Rick Santorum ended his campaign, a total of 5 million votes had been cast for Romney. At the same time, a total of 6 million votes had been cast for Santorum+Gingrich.

Conservatives couldn't unite to keep the RINO off the Republican ticket.

Now, the few remaining conservatives who reject the concept of ABO can't unite behind a single fringe candidate.

There's a pattern here.

122 posted on 06/21/2012 6:06:23 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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