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To: EternalVigilance
What about the 13th Amendment? Are women's wombs to be enslaved to the greater glory of the Almighty State? How does Hoefling propose to force a particular woman to carry her unborn child to term, with a Taser maybe?

The explicit requirement of the Fourteenth Amendment is that the unborn be given due process of law before they can be killed, not that they must never be killed under any circumstances.

Abortion is a travesty, but people should not rush to the even greater travesty of a police state in order to put an end to it.

37 posted on 06/11/2012 9:49:05 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
A state hardly becomes a totalitarian police state merely because it acts to protect life within its borders. I believe it is among the most basic functions of any government.

But, if you are pro-abortion, then you probably should vote for either Romney or Obama.

53 posted on 06/11/2012 10:07:12 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: mvpel
Are women's wombs to be enslaved to the greater glory of the Almighty State?

I've never seen such a load of Planned Parenthood-inspired nonsense on FreeRepublic.com before.

The explicit requirement of the Fourteenth Amendment is that the unborn be given due process of law before they can be killed, not that they must never be killed under any circumstances.

Due process of law in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment context means a fair trial on a capital offense. Can you explain to me how an unborn child could possibly commit a capital offense?

Abortion is a travesty, but people should not rush to the even greater travesty of a police state in order to put an end to it.

I'm constantly amazed by how many folks can't understand the difference between fighting against tyranny and instigating it.

In the physical sense, there is no greater tyranny that can be enacted on the people than to kill them.

67 posted on 06/11/2012 10:36:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of the republic begins the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: mvpel; EternalVigilance

I’ve had this thread bookmarked and am just getting around to reading it.

It is fascinating to hear from someone such as yourself, who has been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Marxists’ long march through our society. Your brain has become mush.

Allow me to help you pump back up those brain cells and get them working again.

1. A woman’s womb has no other rights than those afforded to the woman herself. It is not a free floating entity.

2. The woman does not have the right to murder another human being, nor does she have the right to enslave another human being.

3. At conception, a fully unique human being exists. There is no credible scientist who will deny this and no science that can dispute it.

4. To remove the human being who is formed at conception is to murder it. To hold it hostage to the will of the woman who hosts it, is to enslave this small human being.

Now...

If you want to talk about due process, let’s talk about the one committing a crime— the taker of life, the slave master using her womb as her slave quarters...”Do my bidding, child! You belong to me!” She shouts with indignation— and you listen... to her, not the defenseless child in her magic womb slave quarters.

Try telling women and men who want abortion as a means to eliminate the consequences of their foolishness, to try on responsibility instead.

In fact, try telling that to yourself as well...because you need to start taking responsibility for finding truth, not swilling down what gets fed to you by professors, the media, and those smart, enlightened women you surely hang out with.


523 posted on 06/15/2012 6:27:31 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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