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To: john mirse
My response to your 7 is, their relationship was broken, that image is an attempt to make it appear as if the Dunhams still had a connection to zero in the early eighties. I think it's connected to zero finding his birth certificate as was written in 'Dreams' - and what he found was the birth certificate that belonged to BHO2 which showed the kenyan as father and Anna as mother, and a birthdate around January... From this might have arisen the story that his mother had died in 1970. That's what Madelyn told her relative in 1982. That's probably what the Dunhams told zero. That the reason he was living with them was his mother was dead. That's why he was living rough when he first arrived in New York. It's just conjecture, but the one person who would have told him who his parents were, was Frank Marshall Davis. We see nothing of zero with the Dunhams (Madelyn)until after he's married to Michelle...

But there IS one image of Stanley Ann Dunham with a group in what appears to be Central Park, and Boerner, the supposed flat-mate of zero is standing behind her.

I didn't crop Siddiqi from the image, this is how I found it, and Boerner's story is that he was the flatmate.

276 posted on 05/21/2012 2:58:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Cripes! How did that little dinky guy get to towering over obama? Was he 12 when he went to collage? Am I missing something? LOL


278 posted on 05/21/2012 3:05:59 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fred Nerks
But there IS one image of Stanley Ann Dunham with a group in what appears to be Central Park, and Boerner, the supposed flat-mate of zero is standing behind her.

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I don't think that Obama's mother took the picture of Obama sitting on the bench with his grandparents for this reason: If the mother took the picture, I would think that she would then give the camera to Obama and tell him to take a picture of her with her parents in a similar pose where Obama is sitting on the bench with his grandparents.

To me, seeing Obama's mother posing with Obama and others in the picture you show us, tells me that Obama's mother would have wanted to take some pictures with her parents, if she was walking around with Obama and his grandparents on the day that we see Obama sitting on the bench with his grandparents.

So unless someone can show me a picture of Obama's mother with her parents in New York City with her parents wearing the same clothes that they are wearing in the picture with Obama, then I say that it wasn't Obama's mother who took that picture of Obama's grandparents sitting on the bench in New York City with Obama.

285 posted on 05/21/2012 4:11:33 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Fred Nerks
But there IS one image of Stanley Ann Dunham with a group in what appears to be Central Park, and Boerner, the supposed flat-mate of zero is standing behind her.

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I don't see any black people, especially black girls, in the picture.

The picture got me to wonder: Did Obama date any black girls before he met his wife?

Are there any pictures of Obama on the internet with any black girls in high school or in college? If not, why not? If not, I find that strange.

288 posted on 05/21/2012 4:46:24 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Fred Nerks

The group photo with Zero, Stanley Ann, others and Boerner is odd. Since Zero is IIRC 6’1”, that would make Boerner at least 6’5” or so, and in the photo of Boerner by himself, he looks like a short man. And how tall was Stanley? Zero looks sort of miniature in that photo. Maybe I’m just too cynical.


291 posted on 05/21/2012 5:22:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks

Not Central Park. Those two daisy-cutter shaped gray things to the right are water towers, which in New york city are mounted on the roofs of buildings and operate by gravity. Likely this photo was taken on the roof of the building where someone in the group lived.

About the tall guy - there’s something of a facial resemblance to Boerner, but I don’t think it’s he. The guy in the group has dominantly round eye sockets, with arched brows. Boerner’s sockets are ‘flatter’, as are his brows which extend pretty far beyond the outer corners of his eyes.

In the photo we know is Boerner, he’s standing beside what appears to be an end-table or a 1960s style record player type cabinet. End tables, record cabinet thingies were/are in the appx 24” - 30” height range. If Boerner was 6’ 5” - that’s 77”. That cabinet is just about level with his hip joint. There’s a drinking glass on the floor near Boerner’s foot. If it’s a standard 6” tall glass, then those screw-on wooden legs on the cabinet are also about 6” tall. Marking off the height of the legs against the cabinet, we have a cabinet height of appx. 30” from the floor to the top. Boerner is standing slightly forward of the cabinet, so if we move him back a bit, that would add appx. 6” from his hip joint to his belt. So now - from floor to belt, it’s appx. 36”. His belt is at half his height, which makes him appx. 72” tall, or 6 feet. That’s a half foot shorter than the guy in the group photo, and a couple of inches shorter that Barry. Also - Boerner’s feet appear to be on the small side, and the other guy’s feet are enormous.

In “Dreams” is mention of Barry’s mother and sister Maya visiting him in New York; perhaps it was Maya who took the group photo.

Wish this photo could go up on Drudge for a day - maybe the others in the photo would come forward for their 15 minutes, though if they were part of the Marxist, feminist types Barry sought out, maybe not. Interesting how lily-hued they all are. Associated with Columbia? Or Bill Ayers? SDS? Brinks? Barry went on his secret excursion to Pockeestahhhn in the same 1981 time frame as the Dohrn-affiliated Brinks attack in that New York suburb.


312 posted on 05/24/2012 8:52:59 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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