Go back to my original post... WAY back when. I think he’s a liar. I think he lied about being born in Africa because he thought the meme of the “exotic foreigner” would help his career back when was a nobody law student. And I think that lie played out a little further than he would have liked.
Arizona is not content with what has been provided because no one has provided them anything. They’ve just seen the copy that the Obama campaign produced. They want to see real proof directly from the State of Hawaii. Which they should.
Exactly! And that is what I am saying, and I quote ”There is no excuse for the POTUS not to follow the laws of this nation. Providing a Birth Certificate is one of the simplest things to provide. Not doing so is unacceptable. I find it unacceptable for an elected government official to be above the laws of this great nation. By doing so, Obama shows his disrespect to the people and the laws of this nation.”
See post #177
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2885916/posts?page=177#177
Now whether Obama is born in Hawaii is almost moot at this point. His belief that he is above the law pisses me off. I'm fine with the fact you believe he lied about Kenya, but because as you said, Arizona is not content with what has been provided, people can argue their position that he was born in Kenya because he said so for 16 years and has to date not provided proof otherwise.
Bigdaddy45, I think we are on the same page. I think.
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Yippee! We can now go to bed and sleep well. : )
Except that Freeper Racebannon has Obama telling the "born in Kenya" story back in 1980 when he would have been around 18 years old in Hawaii.
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/11/first-hand-witness-to-obama-admitting.html
"But the next man I want to speak of is the most important of all. And I want to express here, what I am about to tell you, I believe with all sincerity and truthfulness. I am making nothing up here, except maybe a few words to keep a written dialog in readable form, but I believe I met Barak Obama in Hawaii in 1980 in Honolulu.
It was after we had come home from that float. The rescue attempt had happened in Iran . My squadron was flying search and rescue the day the aircraft left the USS Nimitz on the afternoon of April 24, 1980 in the Arabian Sea . After the mission was aborted and the crash happened, our ship had set sail to Mombassa for liberty.
The ship spent 4 days in Mombassa, but due to some Marines stealing a radio, I was a brig guard for the month and only had 2 days ashore. I made time to go on a short safari in the Tsavo East National park, seeing elephants and hippos in the wild, some gazelles, water buffalo, some large birds and one particular lizard the size of a German Shepard that I held up for everyone to take pictures of while it lazed about in the daytime sun. Why it didn’t bite me, I can only thank God.
While back in Hawaii by late June of 1980, we went back to Honolulu for liberty. I don’t remember the exact address, or the exact business, but one August night, early August 1980, I stopped at a small shop that was either on Kalakaua Blvd or the street just north of it, one block north. I struck up a conversation with a young man, Mulatto, about 18, all teeth, smiling, skinny, short hair that I remember, at least short for the year we lived in.
He told me he lived in Hawaii . Not too many black Americans lived in Hawaii at all, now or then, so he being there was an oddity. I asked if he was in the service and he said no. I told him that I was a Marine and had recently gotten back from float. We spoke of world travel at this time and I told him the places we went to.
What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia . He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii . I don’t remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government. He made some strange comments to me, it was obvious he never set foot for any time on continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, “ Hawaii aint the United States !”
He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there”. I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.
No one wanted to go, and at that time, my camera had failed the weeks before we hit Mombassa and it was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone else’s pictures to develop myself so I had copies of where I was. But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didn’t mean we were friends.
In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President."