That photograph shows him with his father and Ruth is holding Mark.
Posted on 05/20/2012 5:44:11 AM PDT by pookie18
The biography provided by Barack Obama to his literary agent specified his birthplace as "Kenya". And, over the course of 17 years, despite multiple revisions by Obama, the Kenyan birthplace remained a fundamental part of the bio on the agent's website.
Was Barack actually born in Kenya? I seriously doubt it, even though Michelle Obama has publicly stated that Kenya is her husband's "home country". Contemporary newspaper listings in Honolulu, for example, list the time and place of his birth. While this isn't ironclad proof, to be sure, it's good enough for me.
No, my suspicion is that Mr. Obama manipulated his birthplace intentionally (and cynically) to take advantage of certain benefits unavailable to those born in the United States.
Bookworm Room describes why that might have been. We need to set the Wayback Machine to 1978, when young Obama was seeking admission to college.
1978 isn’t just any year. It’s a very special year. It was the year that the Supreme Court decided Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (1978) 438 U.S. 265... [and] held that [the] race-based admission process was unconstitutional.
With that decision, Obama, who was a self-confessed slacker in high school, suddenly lost his e-ticket to a good college. He couldn’t know then (nor would it have mattered) that the various concurrences in this deeply divided opinion would eventually open the door to colleges and universities making race a “factor” in admission, so much so that this “factor-ness” eventually created a whole new quota system.
My best guess is that, denied an opportunity to use quota systems to parlay a lousy academic record into a quality college admission, Obama searched around for other means of bypassing his academic failings. It was this search that led him to announce that he was Kenyan. I’m sure that a certain amount of digging will reveal that, just when the Bakke decision came down, American universities were engaged in some sort of pro-active policy involving increasing the number of African nationals on America’s college campuses. Obama was happy to oblige the universities in this effort by co-opting his father’s nationality, and burying the fact that he was a garden-variety American black kid.
There’s the nexus — In 1978, Obama, who already then was willing to lie to achieve his goals, created a false identity to deal with the changes the Bakke decision wrought on college admissions.
This appears to be an extremely plausible explanation for Obama's refusal to release any of his college transcripts.
My guess is that this scenario -- or one similar to it -- helps explain why Obama enjoys the company of race-hustlers like Al Sharpton.
And where was the media for lo these many years? Busy investigating Sarah Palin's elementary school chums?
You can be 100% convinced of whatever you want to be. I think Obama is a first class fraud, and a terrible President. But you have posted a bunch on conspiratorial and circumstantial BS with no hard evidence that Obama’s mother wasn’t Stanley. Have fun on the grassy knoll.
And at the very least Arthurs dad became a US Citizen when Aruthur was 14 years old. So, that puts him ahead of obama anyway. :)
One document says Certificate of Live Birth.
The other document says Birth Certificate. The Birth Certificate is embellished with gold stamps.
Good day Sir.
Well Skippy... here’s a little test for you. Go ahead and find a copy of a Birth Certificate from Hawaii thats different from the COLB Obama supplied. (given all the hoopla, it should be easy).
You won’t. They’re the same thing. If the COLB was a fraud, then at least it was a fraud in the right format.
Actually, the conspiracy is yours. It’s right in front of you but you can’t see it.
YOU BELIEVE!
The conspiracy is a teenager just out of high school had a relationship with a kenyan native student and pulled a baby out of the ether and enrolled at the U of WA two weeks after he was born...without any evidence of her presence in Hawaii and without anyone seeing her pregnant or with a child, and not one single photograph of the ‘mother’ with said child until it was three years of age.
And to top it off, you pretend you don’t know the difference between a COLB and a Long Form BC.
GO AWAY.
Seems Arizona disagrees with you.
Again Good day, Sir.
Uhh.... sorry, but no they don’t. Arizona is asking for proof of the original from the state of Hawaii directly. The COPY they have isn’t good enough (nor should it be). They’re not asking for some magical “birth certificate” thats beyond the COLB COPY that Obama provided. They’re asking for proof that that COPY is real from the State of Hawaii.
Do try to keep up.
Yes, I have read the Ulsterman interviews. I think they’re fiction based on fact.
Now now, Billy Ayers did the best he could for little barry bastard commie, given the mish mash of lies and fables Stephen Bernard Dunham fed to him.
Go ahead... Post a copy of a “long form BC”. Any copy. Please. Lets see one.
My birth certificate from the state of North Carolina looks (more or less) just like Obamas. You’re talking out your rectal cavity.
You ARE a rectal cavity.
Nice. Find the copy of a “long form birth certificate yet”? Keep looking...... Your credibility is dwindling by the minute....
What if his mother wasn’t that 17-year-old but someone else, who lived in Kenya? What if the 17-year-old and her new “husband” took delivery of this child from Kenya? Remember that the microfilmed images showing port of entry records for the week of his birth, Aug. 1961, are simply MISSING from the NARA. The Cold Case Posse got nowhere when they asked the Archives for the records. Why is only that one pertinent week missing? WHO came into the USA, bringing that child? Could it have been another of Barack Senior’s wives? He could have been born in Kenya without his nominal “mother” being there, if he was adopted.
Jerome Corsi just interviewed on radio with Bill Cunningham. Sheriff Arpaio will have shocking revelations for next press conference in June that will further dismantle the myths about Zero’s reported background... perhaps enough damage to not be the Dem nominee?
Yes Constitutional crisis ain’t gonna stop.......
I wonder what the Clinton National Archives thief removed for his masters? I wonder why Brennen was allowed to make whole cloth lies stand as his authority to have his employees sanitizing little barry bastard commie’s passport records? I wonder why folks are not at all alarmed that the presumed Pres ent of the United SZtates posted a fraudulent document claiming it was his actual birth cert?? I wonder why people who are about to receal details of little barry bastard commie’s life die suddenly? ... No, I really don’t wonder because I know the lying bastard wasn’t born in the United States.
Because there is no proof.
I have no problem believing that Obama is born in Hawaii. But then Obama better have a damn good explanation why is claims he was born in Kenya. Tell me Bigdaddy45, did you ever feel the need to tell your employer that you were born in Scotland, Ireland, Poland, Peru, Argentina, South Africa?
Okay, lets go down that road. Obama senior was BLACK. Obama is.... uhh....not so black. How many white girls do you think there would be for Obama Sr. to get pregnant in Kenya in late 1960? I’m guessing the pickins were pretty slim.
Re: Post 130. I have read about all the points you have made.
There is another explanation for them and that is that someone on Obama’s team purposefully tampered with all that information to make everything look suspicious.
During the Clinton era, it was common knowledge that there was a team of people sowing misinformation and misdirection on conservative forums, inc. FR. Lots of folks, including me, bought it hook, line and sinker. It reached a fevered pitch leading up to the 1996 election. It was all lies and exaggeration, it was later determined.
After the 1996 election, there was a Freeper who recruited Freepers to counter the misinformation and misdirection by going on liberal forums to sow the same. I’m not sure how successful that has been.
Since then, I approach everything with a huge dose of skepticism - especially everything within one year of a major election.
Liberals are masters of psychological operations many layers deep.
That photograph shows him with his father and Ruth is holding Mark.
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