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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Do you believe this Republic will survive another four years of the little barry bastard commie and his gaggle of thuggish goons? Do you think Romney and Obama would appoitn the same judges to the SCOTUS?

BTW, the analogy presented by presidio is valid if you were comparing the purchases of Coke with other soft drinks of similar nature, with a given background purchasing populace who will choose either coke or any other soft drink. Ridiculing an analogy because you don't like the stark truth contained therein is an alinsky tactic, if you didn't know already.

157 posted on 05/12/2012 12:31:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN; presidio9
BTW, the analogy presented by presidio is valid if you were comparing the purchases of Coke with other soft drinks of similar nature, with a given background purchasing populace who will choose either coke or any other soft drink. Ridiculing an analogy because you don't like the stark truth contained therein is an alinsky tactic, if you didn't know already.

Valid? I believe that the example violates both the category fallacy and the proportions fallacy. Besides, as AMPU points out, it is irrelevant because it is the electoral votes, not the popular vote, which determine the outcome. In my state, my refusal to vote for Romney would have to be multiplied by 500,000 times to possibly make any difference.

Do you have any positive reasons to vote for Romney? Frankly, the Chicken Little routine is getting tiresome. I am only slightly more concerned about what Obama might do to the country than what Romney would do to this nation and to the conservative movement. Not enough, however, to soil my hands by voting for Romney.

158 posted on 05/12/2012 1:22:23 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: MHGinTN

Dear FRiend MHGinTN...

Thanks for taking a moment to share your thoughts. You asked some questions and I will attempt to answer them because you are a friend.

“Do you believe this Republic will survive another four years of the little barry bastard commie and his gaggle of thuggish goons?”
“Do you think Romney and Obama would appoint the same judges to the SCOTUS?”

I believe America, like Gulliver, has reached a point where it is tied down with millions of threads. It is an empire in decline. Liberty has declined steadily during the past 30 years - after electing both Republican and Democrat Presidents. People are no longer free in their persons, their property, their liberties, their privacy or in the promise America once held so strongly. The center of the world of financial capital has shifted overseas. There are now more IPOs in Hong Kong than in America and London combined. Capital follows freedom.

Please do not miss that every POTUS is to blame - and more importantly, Congress is to blame, regardless of party. They are ALL guilty.

If Republicans were conservatives with balls, we could easily survive Obama or RINOmney. Unfortunately, republicans are neutered and can only sing soprano now. They happily sing in harmony with Democrats to gut conservatism. Unless they can grow a pair or we can replace the Republican Eunuchs with vigorous, virile and potent conservatives, not a thing will change.

Frankly, FRiend, I do not believe conservatives understand the full impact of what has happened to the country. They seem to believe that if we just lower taxes, the financial woes of the USA will disappear. They seem to believe, if we just win the Presidency and appoint some good judges, all will resume as it was during the years we grew up. I no longer believe EITHER of the current candidates can change the direction of the ship.

So to answer your question in a word, sure, the country will survive temporarily. Can we survive RINOmney? Sure, we can survive him temporarily. Neither will make the changes that will last and keep us from furthering the decline. Neither has the courage or conviction.

“BTW, the analogy presented by presidio is valid if you were comparing the purchases of Coke with other soft drinks of similar nature, with a given background purchasing populace who will choose either coke or any other soft drink. “

I don’t think the analogy was logically valid at all. I answered the post according to its folly. If by taking away a vote from the total makes it require one fewer vote for Zero to be elected, then taking away a vote also makes it require one fewer vote to elect RINOmney.

I suggest this is more realistic:

Three scenarios may occur:

1. Zero landslide - my vote doesn’t matter, and frankly, yours doesn’t either.
2. RINOmney landslide - my vote doesn’t matter, and frankly, yours doesn’t either.
3. EXTREMELY close election - my vote won’t change the outcome, unless my vote be located in a state that provides the required Electoral College votes needed to win. Unlikely, and I’m in a blue state anyway. If you are in a very close state, then maybe yours will be the “vote that counts”. It is, however extremely unlikely that your individual vote will be the vote that turns your state. My state had over 6 million voters in 2008.

My voting and efforts in giving can, however, impact some down-ticket races and money can impact far away conservative races.

In the end, I am going to follow my own conscience with my own vote, seeking to elect conservatives. I don’t intend to tell anyone else to how to vote and I smile when they try to tell me how to vote.

blessings,
ampu


162 posted on 05/12/2012 6:43:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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