Posted on 05/11/2012 6:10:55 PM PDT by Manic_Episode
I dissagree. God will try to use whatever candidate we choose to teach us. But the fact is, that God gave dominion of the earth over to man. It's men that vote for the candidates. God may try to pick up the pieces, but that doesn't make our votes "beside the point" or irrelevant, which is what your post seemed to be saying.
Just like everything that happens is not God's will. It's never God's will that people sin, but they do. It's never God's will that people reject him and die in their ins, and thus face the second death, but they do.
“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
I take offense at that.
I'm supporting Virgil Goode. I'm not supporting either Romney or Obama. I don't see Romney as any better than Obama. But that certainly doesn't mean I support either.
They are both horrible horrible candidates, and it worries me that our country has fallen so low that both major parties have put up uber-liberals for us to vote for.
I take offense at that.
I'm supporting Virgil Goode. I'm not supporting either Romney or Obama. I don't see Romney as any better than Obama. But that certainly doesn't mean I support either.
They are both horrible horrible candidates, and it worries me that our country has fallen so low that both major parties have put up uber-liberals for us to vote for.
I take offense at that.
I'm supporting Virgil Goode. I'm not supporting either Romney or Obama. I don't see Romney as any better than Obama. But that certainly doesn't mean I support either.
They are both horrible horrible candidates, and it worries me that our country has fallen so low that both major parties have put up uber-liberals for us to vote for.
I take offense at that.
I'm supporting Virgil Goode. I'm not supporting either Romney or Obama. I don't see Romney as any better than Obama. But that certainly doesn't mean I support either.
They are both horrible horrible candidates, and it worries me that our country has fallen so low that both major parties have put up uber-liberals for us to vote for.
I take offense to your support of Obama. A vote for Virgil is a vote for Obama.
“If You want to quote Scripture You’d better be a bit more LDS...”I’m sorry... I thought there was a hat with a rock in it.....
Didn’t mean to post that 4 times, but I really take offense to that.
Besides if you’re supporting Romney, then your supporting Obama’s policies. Because Romney’s policies are almost identical to Obama’s.
So you’re close to supporting Obama than I am.
wow 4 posts, must be feelin guilty for supporting Obama.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama's policies, because they are identical. It's you that is supporting socialism, government controlled healthcare, sodomy=marriage, abortion, anti gun laws, and all the crap that Romney and Obama stand for.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama's policies, because they are identical. It's you that is supporting socialism, government controlled healthcare, sodomy=marriage, abortion, anti gun laws, and all the crap that Romney and Obama stand for.
All of this is built on a false assumption - no Christian is under the obligation to vote for either man. As you point out, BOTH men are enemies of the Cross. Any Christian who wishes to withhold a vote from either man can simply skip that line or vote for another candidate.
Ironically, the more moral appearing of the two is probably the bigger enemy of traditional Christianity. By all appearances, Obama is as you described a post-Christian, neo-pagan who is generally indifferent to religion (unless he thinks he can use it push his socialism) while Romney is an ardent supporter of a false gospel and probably on a fast track to become one of the highest leaders in this false church once he leaves politics. Given the choice on this dimension, I'd rather have the wolf in wolf's clothing than the wolf is sheep's clothing. The former is generally far less dangerous than the latter.
I think that Christians need to ask themselves "How is voting for an enemy of the Cross serving Christ?"
The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by H.Sapiens is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the sacharrine adoration of his creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and becomes petulant if he does not recieve this flattery. Yet this ridiculous notion, without one real shred of evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found one of the oldest, largest and least productive industries in history. [Robert Heinlein]
Sorry. We can agree to disagree. I know this is a pro-god site. I’ve been posting for over 10 years. I’m here for the conservatism, not the religon. But this nonsense about voting for Romney being a sin is ridiculous.
I’m happily married, have 3 kids, am pro-life. Military officer with many deployments. I’ve never had more loathing for a politician than Obama. He must go or we’re finished.
If your religon gives you comfort that’s swell. I just hope folks of all stripes that are conservative can agree that Bammy must go. God won’t have anything to do with it.
A vote for Mittens is a vote for the GOP candidate who has to answer to the GOP elites. Far far from perfect but they don’t hate America. Want a better candidate then get involved in the process. Not voting only pushes the GOP further to the left.
Mittens can be influenced and he won’t risk the very lives of our children.
Although not directed at me, I'm sure that DannyTN would agree. I'm leaning toward a vote for Goode but whether I do or not, I will never vote for Romney. (Related to this thread, I have said repeatedly on FR that I wouldn't vote for Mitt Romney if he were an evangelical Christian - his politics stink that much.)
However, if I do vote for Goode, I don't care one iota what you think. I answer to Jesus Christ, not you. My Christian conscience is 100% clear by not voting for either Romney or Obama.
“I think it is a sin to vote for either Obama or Romney.”
Is it a sin to enable the re-election of a Christian hating Muslim?
Romney is an extreme liberal pretending to be a moderate or, at times, a conservative. A pretender will never get my vote. I vote for honesty, if honesty is not there, I don’t vote (that old conviction thingy hounds me day and night).
Sorry, my convictions stand ... when I stand before God, I can say, with a clear conscience “I didn’t vote for either” because both were unworthy.
So, my choices are between a socialist/communist and a person that doesn’t have the ability or brains to realize that he is a member of a cult. Gee, choices, choices ... not my call.
Yes you will answer to Jesus. We all will.
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