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To: JD_UTDallas

I am continung to reply becuase I feel so strongly about this. There was no ballistic evidence given at the the bail hearing. Where are you getting your information? Where is your evidence that his head injury was caused by being slammed into a concrete pavement? There are NO medical records to support your statement. If you were truly a boxer,(no offense meant), the issue involving your situation is called a “closed brain injury or trauma.” this is quite different from from having your head slammed into a concrete pavement. Closed brain injuries are totally different, as you point out. This is why boxers and football players can suffer an injury and still remain upright and show no damage for varying lengths of time. These are tougher to diagnose and go undetected for years, although the damage is significant. This is why brain injuries are becoming an issue in the NFL and other contact sports. I continue to believe Zimmerman was the one who was angry that night. I have searched for links for the information about the ballistics you have cited, I would be interested in reading it. Could you please post a link? Thank you.


64 posted on 04/28/2012 11:18:26 AM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: BLOC77
I am familiar with closed brain injury or trauma. Zimmerman was struck first with a FIST then fell to the pavement. the police report clearly shows bleeding from the nose and back of the head. Have you been living under a rock? The images of the back of his head are available for all to see, anyone who has done crime investigation can clearly see that those types of impact marks are consistent with pavement particularity the linear nature of the lesions those are indicative of a curb line or other concrete impact from a dead fall backwards. I am EMT certified and volunteered for the local fire department for a few years so I also have seen quite a few curb/concrete impacts to the back of humans heads they are common in children at play mostly and they all exhibit that typical linearity. Stitches are not usually necessary a couple of butterfly bandages and a good ice pack. I personally have a curb line scar on the back of my head from falling backwards into a curb while playing street rollerblade hockey in my early teens.

You have no PROOF Zimmerman was angry it is your feeling and as such irrelevant. I heard the call too he did not sound angry at all he sounded uneasy if anything but see now two people have heard the same sounds and have different feelings this is why it is irrelevant you can no more PROVE that he was angry more than I can PROVE he was uneasy.

The police have the gun in custody and "leaked" that the single round fired brass did not eject. Why leak that well again this is only caused by failure to cycle the slide since the round went off at full power obviously it killed Martin the only plausible way to keep a slide from reaching full rear is for a hand to be holding the slide if an object is behind the slide such as well Zimmarmans chest he would have a very nasty impact wound and bloody lesions as the slide rail metal cuts surely in those situations. A slide comes back with great force and speed. Many a time have I seen a novice shooter leave a part of their hand behind an autoloaders slide only to have a finger broken or worse a huge grove cut across the palm. Even with a palm cut or broken finger the slide still runs full cycle only a firm hand grip on top of a slide will stop it from full cycle. So much so that in the MP academy they teach you to grab the opponents gun if pointed at you in arms reach by the slide thus ensuring only one round can go off. No there was a hand on top of the slide since Zimmerman had no such chest injury. Again in the trial the M.E. better have done GSR tests on Martins hands I would again bet 100 bucks that the palm of his hand or hands both have GSR on them he was trying to take zimmerman's gun away when he was shot bet on that coming out in trial. As for forensics bullet path ballistics analysis that too will come out in the trial none law enforcement affiliated people will have to wait until the trial. I should not have commented on the path of the bullet that was discussed in private amongst law enforcement and was leaked as well on purpose I am sure of that. The little public facts that have been released via images, voice recordings and reports show that Zimmerman was assaulted that is confirmed by the LEO on scene reports go read them they are in the public domain as pdf files, that document his defencsive injuries backed up by images and public releases that his nose was broken he ELECTED not to take transport to the hospital but did see medial attention on his own those records will come to trial as well. He clearly states on record that he streamed for help and no one came, that is backed up by the voice recording of someone screaming for help computer voice analysis will prove it was Zimmerman. He was arrested questioned that is also in the documentation and most assuredly photographed in detail from all angles these images are being held for trial for sure bank on them being defence evidence number one. You are baiting the question yet again and as such this discussion is over I will not discuss your opinions as that would be foolish the facts are coming more will be "leaked" and it is going to burn the image of little skittles boy and set back the race baiters decades in credibility. The reason facts are being leaked is these fools took a cold race war and turned it warm then now see that they got the facts wrong and are back peddling to save face expect more leaks to gradually defuse the F@ck up the media and race baiters et al. made.

70 posted on 04/28/2012 12:22:51 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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