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Now history has told us of a group of central European peoples and the dear leader who concluded what you have concluded. As Dostoyevsky said, "Without God, all things are permitted." And so World War II cost 100 million lives because Hitler sought to set his Worldview-his Weltanschauung-loose on the whole world. Hitler, a devotee of Nietzsche. Nietzsche wrote, "Our whole European culture is moving for some time now with tortured tension that is growing from decade to decade, as toward a catastrophe: resteless, violently, headlong like a river that wants to reach the end, that no longer reflects, no long wants to reflect, that is afraid to reflect. Nihlism is the only result...

I highly suggest you take another look at the Bible, specifically the Ten Commandments--especially the one that says "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." You may not have invented such vile and malicious lies, but repeating them as you have means you made them yours. Why do you equate scientists with mass murderers? Do you have verifiable evidence (with references) that studying science leads people to become mass murderers? If not, then don't call us mass murderers.

I totally get the fact that you feel your faith threatened by the fact that the physical world refuses to match a metaphorical story from the Bible. Well, tough. It's up to you to reconcile your faith with the physical world--scientists have absolutely no obligation to lie about the physical world to make you happy. Your weak faith does NOT give you the right to spread vicious lies about scientists.

I am afraid your blind and purposeless universe gives little comfort to those who are on the front lines of this great struggle before us in resource allocation. Death panels have already been set up by people such as Peter Sanger and yourself.

Where is your evidence that I'm eagerly setting up death panels?

You have no evidence that I am a murderer. You have no evidence that I sympathize with murderers. You have no right to accuse me of such.

Is that how you show your Christian values? By calling people murderers because they accept the scientific view of the world instead of believing that an obvious metaphor is literal?

Let me remind you again of the Ten Commandments. There is no commandment against studying the physical world. There is no commandment to believe that every single Biblical metaphor is a literal account. But there *is* a commandment against making false accusations about people: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Maybe you don't think that means something, but I do.

Your response is always the same....Feign Indignation and then offer Misdirection. You change the subject because apparently you have no ability to engage in a discussion on the topic. You did not address a single point in my conversation to you.

You really need to work on reading comprehension. Your response of misdirection is to present a (false) context which you take out of context to create a fictitous pretext. In my post to you I never accused you of murder....I did not use the word kill....I did say Hitlers wordview (his weltanschauung) led to the death of 100 million people. His worldview was one born from evolution, naturalism, and physicalism with a heavy tinge of eastern mysticism. For a starter reference, which you requested, you might consider the book by Richard Weikart, From Darwin to Hitler, ISMn 1-4039-7201-X.

Now I won't humor you by trying to sooth your hurt feelings. Your indignation is of your own making....deal with it.

I do like the consistency you demonstrate as an evolutionist, naturalist, determinist, physicalist. You refer me to the Bible...you highly suggest....highly...I go to the Bible to deal with your allegation that I called you a murderer. Then in the next paragraph you reference the Bible as a metaphor. Your logic at least is consistent in that it is irrational in referring me to deal with your contrived characterization you acuse me of, all the while denying the veracity of that very Bible.

I will only say that my entire previous post to you was the discuss the worldview of the darwinist and where it can lead as opposed to the Judeo-Christian worldview. Out of what is as crystal clear as that communication could be my references were to contrast worldviews. Ideas have consequences. Darwinist ideas have born, in my opinion, destructive consequences.

Again, I did not say you wanted to have death panels. If you read the above referenced book you will see the evolution of the thinking of the Germanic scientists, British scientists, and American scientists worldview morph what was a Christian nation to one which embraced darwinian determinism. I do not believe that most 'scientists' are of the view that people should be 'murdered'. Remember,....I do not know you. I have never laid eyes on you. I am not in the buisness of calling people murders. (By the way. Murder is a legal term. I think you might be thinking of the term kill, killing).

I will try not to engage you in any more conversation. I will leave you to you experiments. Please do not write me back.

As a Christian I do appreciate a darwinist referring me to the Bible as a guide, not only to 'metaphors' but to the text of the decalogue. And I am glad that those 10 commandments which you reference, are more than suggestions.

Good Luck and good night.