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To: John W; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
"I do not know if all those who would need to be involved in this were complicit from the beginning or covered up after the fact so they didn’t appear as incompetent as they are.

Of course, “need to be involved” is relative. At some levels below the very top of this, involved probably means simply going along, for whatever reason.

We see this even down to the lowest level of conservative bloggers locally, banning any such discussion and anyone who brings the topic up. Of course, they did the same poor job of vetting this man as almost everyone did."

All that is so. However there are some nuances you may also want to consider.

Based on things I have heard and seen, I believe some Conservatives media leaders were shown documentary support for the proposition that he was in fact born in the United States but under circumstances that would almost irrevocably prejudice (or maybe have prejudiced in an after election display) his election changes; and decided (wrongly in my opinion) that the majority had spoken and that preservation of the Constitutional democracy required them to support the result.

I know that flies in the face of the wishful thinking here that there are possible arguments for defective qualification as a Natural Born Citizen for even people born in the US. Most Constitutional Law on these questions which are not clearly resolved by the literal words is made by the Academics and by the lawyers who practice in the Constitutional Bar and there isn't any doubt this issue has been long ago resolved in favor of the proposition that anyone born in the USA is eligible under Article II Sec. 1 no matter who their parents were and no matter what other citizenship status they may have or acquire.

However even if my underlying view that some Conservative Media Leaders are more informed, there may be more to the analysis than that because given the extent of fake and outright fraudulent documents we have seen manufactured by supporters of Zero, it isn't beyond the reach of reasonable thought that a fraudulent side record of his birth in the US may also have been created to support his position and for investigator's to find at this stage of the inquiry.

56 posted on 04/15/2012 10:10:56 AM PDT by David
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David wrote:

"Based on things I have heard and seen, I believe some Conservatives media leaders were shown documentary support for the proposition that he was in fact born in the United States but under circumstances that would almost irrevocably prejudice (or maybe have prejudiced in an after election display) his election changes; and decided (wrongly in my opinion) that the majority had spoken and that preservation of the Constitutional democracy required them to support the result.

"I know that flies in the face of the wishful thinking here that there are possible arguments for defective qualification as a Natural Born Citizen for even people born in the US. Most Constitutional Law on these questions which are not clearly resolved by the literal words is made by the Academics and by the lawyers who practice in the Constitutional Bar and there isn't any doubt this issue has been long ago resolved in favor of the proposition that anyone born in the USA is eligible under Article II Sec. 1 no matter who their parents were and no matter what other citizenship status they may have or acquire.

"However even if my underlying view that some Conservative Media Leaders are more informed, there may be more to the analysis than that because given the extent of fake and outright fraudulent documents we have seen manufactured by supporters of Zero, it isn't beyond the reach of reasonable thought that a fraudulent side record of his birth in the US may also have been created to support his position and for investigator's to find at this stage of the inquiry."

Article, and # 56. [Thanks, David.]

. . . . # 22 is important, and worth considering.

Then,

TexasCajun said:

Toots & Pops were CIA?

I thought they were just good little Communists, like their friend & neighbor Mr. (Frank Marshall) Davis.

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77 posted on 04/15/2012 3:05:48 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: David
I believe some Conservatives media leaders were shown documentary support for the proposition that he was in fact born in the United States but under circumstances that would almost irrevocably prejudice (or maybe have prejudiced in an after election display) his election changes; and decided (wrongly in my opinion) that the majority had spoken and that preservation of the Constitutional democracy required them to support the result.

No, because then there wouldn't have been the need for SR511 which he signed his name to TWICE (once in committee with Hillary) and once in the Senate to the TWO US PARENTS CITIZENSHIP definition. Funny how McCain needed the definition but it didn't need to be applied to the usurper.

78 posted on 04/15/2012 3:50:35 PM PDT by bgill
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