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To: DiogenesLamp

“I just wish people would quit putting out silly critiques of it (usually based on their lack of understanding about adoptions and birth certificates.) and point out a real flaw. (if one exists.) “

Oh brother. Sorry to waste your precious time.

Your theory consists of a litany of

might have
may have
possibly happened
could have
I have offered a suggestions
it was a blunder
“legal” forgeries

because we are all to stupid to understand your SO HIGHLY COMPLEX THAT YOU MUST BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND IT adoption theory.

Flaw #1

He wasn’t President when his FIRST “forged” COLB came out. He was a candidate.

What other citizen gets to double check “alterable” PDF files sent to them with ALL the security features in place while checking for mistakes or objectionable information? They won’t even give Duncan S. his sister’s long form birth certificate when he is legally entitled to it.

Flaw #2

The White House says the PDF came second. It did not. It came first. That is the lie right there.
The security stamps were added to a computer file not a hard copy. Get it? Why are they lying? Why are you making excuses for their lie?

Flaw #3

He has THREE forged documents floating around out there. Two birth certificates and one selective service record. And most likely a stolen SS#.


81 posted on 04/01/2012 4:02:23 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue; Danae
because we are all to stupid to understand your SO HIGHLY COMPLEX THAT YOU MUST BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND IT adoption theory.

If you keep talking like this I am going to conclude that you are right. I wouldn't call myself a rocket scientist, but this is the sort of thing I do for a living.

Flaw #1

He wasn’t President when his FIRST “forged” COLB came out. He was a candidate.

And it is this same COLB (not the Daily Kos version though) that Hawaiian officials later said was absolutely genuine. That ought to be a clue for you.

What other citizen gets to double check “alterable” PDF files sent to them with ALL the security features in place while checking for mistakes or objectionable information?

I would suggest that any of them who were using an attorney to go through a process amending or nullifying a previous adoption. How often does that happen do you think?

They won’t even give Duncan S. his sister’s long form birth certificate when he is legally entitled to it.

That is interesting, but not conclusive regarding Obama's PDF. Your "Flaw #1 is a big fat nothing.

Flaw #2

The White House says the PDF came second. It did not. It came first. That is the lie right there.

So? How is that a flaw with MY theory? I have repeatedly said that the PDF was first. How do you suppose they CREATE new fake birth certificates?

The security stamps were added to a computer file not a hard copy. Get it?

Absolutely. I've been saying the same thing all along. The White House lying is nothing new. They lie everyday about everything.

Why are they lying?

Because they are Democrats, and would get lynched if they told the truth.

Why are you making excuses for their lie?

Why are you accusing me of making excuses for their lies? Lying is the air they breath over there. Why are you so shocked that the lyingest liar in history is once again lying? Flaw #2 is also a big fat nothing.

Flaw #3

He has THREE forged documents floating around out there. Two birth certificates and one selective service record. And most likely a stolen SS#.

From what I have seen, it seems highly likely that his selective service application is faked, and his Social Security # ought not belong to him. The difference between these two things and his birth certificate is that as President, he can prohibit any cooperation for anyone looking into his FEDERAL records, but his STATE records are maintained in accordance with the laws of the pertinent state, which in this case is Hawaii.

In other words, he can't order them to just do what he wants, he has to get them to do it by going through a process which they will recognize as legitimate. Of course if you want to believe the alternative, (that Hawaiian officials are members of his cult and will break laws and endanger their own careers and freedom for their idol) then you argument has a different problem.

I am not going to go the "conspiracy" route unless the evidence is extremely convincing. Your Flaw #3 is a big bust in my opinion. This is exactly what i'm talking about, you aren't coming up with anything that really pokes a hole in the theory.

What would be an actually good flaw for you to point out would be an example of a recently produced long-form Hawaiian birth certificate that actually has a hand stamp and signature (Danae's?) so as to demonstrate that it is NORMALLY stamped rather than printed.

That wouldn't be conclusive, but it would certainly be a better flaw to point out than your non-sequiturs above.

Danae, is your document stamped by an actual stamp, or is the stamp just printed on like my birth certificate?

85 posted on 04/02/2012 6:27:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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