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To: Smokeyblue
So is Hawaii allowed to issue “alterable” PDF files in the place of paper documents that have been hand-stamped by a human being? That seems absurd on the face of it.

I have offered a suggestion to explain this.

*IF* the document were produced by court order, the DOH may have sent a PDF file to the Obama Attorney for approval prior to printing and stamping a paper document.

The attorney may have looked at it and concluded it was exactly what he wanted and so sent word back that the document was acceptable. He then went to Hawaii, obtained two official stamped paper copies, and brought them back to Washington. When Obama said he wanted to post the document on the White House Website, the attorney could have simply emailed the PDF to the White House staff without realizing that the details of how it was put together were contained in the file.

It was a blunder by someone trained primarily in law, not in the computer technology involved. (A Highly Plausible ignorance among most attorneys.) I dare say, MOST people are unaware that a PDF can contain information that people don't want known.

The fact is this. Somehow a PDF of his "official" long form birth certificate was created. It was either created by a scan which was "optimized" (the prevalent O-bot theory) or it was created by someone who copied and pasted the document together out of pieces.

Which one do you think is more probable?

67 posted on 04/01/2012 12:02:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
*IF* the document were produced by court order, the DOH may have sent a PDF file to the Obama Attorney for approval prior to printing and stamping a paper document.

Why would Obama or his lawyer be allowed to DICTATE or even be allowed to give an OPINION about a supposed "legally-recreated" birth certificate?

The attorney may have looked at it and concluded it was exactly what he wanted and so sent word back that the document was acceptable. He then went to Hawaii, obtained two official stamped paper copies, and brought them back to Washington.

It was a she not a he. Obama’s personal attorney, Judith Corley.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/gop-lawmaker-stokes-birther-drama/

Among the documents distributed last year by the White House were the president’s “long form” birth certificate and correspondence between the White House counsel and the state of Hawaii. Obama’s personal attorney, Judith Corley, flew to Hawaii to pick up the original certified copies and carry them back to the White House. The certificate of live birth includes the original, handwritten signatures of Obama’s mother Ann Dunham Obama, the attending doctor, and the local registrar. The verified document also reveals the location of Obama’s birth to be Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.

When Obama said he wanted to post the document on the White House Website, the attorney could have simply emailed the PDF to the White House staff without realizing that the details of how it was put together were contained in the file.

Again, the lawyer should ONLY have two hard copies. You are the one that is supposing Hawaii "legally" gave him a PDF file for his perusal and to offer critiques.

It was a blunder by someone trained primarily in law, not in the computer technology involved. (A Highly Plausible ignorance among most attorneys.) I dare say, MOST people are unaware that a PDF can contain information that people don't want known.

You sure are working overtime for your theory.

The fact is this. Somehow a PDF of his "official" long form birth certificate was created. It was either created by a scan which was "optimized" (the prevalent O-bot theory) or it was created by someone who copied and pasted the document together out of pieces.

Geez, have you even watched the Cold Case Posse press conference? It was NOT "optimized." That has been proven. It WAS created by someone who copied and pasted the document together out of pieces. It was never anything other than a CREATED DIGITAL IMAGE.

The hand-stamp text blocks would not have been included in the PDF file if it weren't an ILLEGAL FORGERY.

Which one do you think is more probable?

The latter. The imported hand-stamps in the PDF file proves it.

Sorry, at this point, you are so wedded to your "legal forgery" theory that you are myopic.

75 posted on 04/01/2012 1:14:20 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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