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To: DiogenesLamp; Flotsam_Jetsome
"I wish people wouldn't use Sun Yat Sen as an example of Hawaiian's registering foreigners as having been born there, because this happened so long ago before Hawaii even became a state. Something more recent would serve as a far better example, and Arpaio's Cold Case Posse asserted that they had such proof.

Apart from that, rxsid recently posted an article regarding a man who was born in Brisbane Australia, but who claims to have a Hawaiian birth certificate.

Such a document would do much to open people's eyes to the notion that Hawaii's documents cannot be trusted at face value. "

I believe the point that people are trying to make when posting the Sun Yat Sen Hawaiian COLB is that the Hawaiian birth certificate fraud has been going on for a very long time. It shows just how ridiculous their documentation system is...and has been. Even a famous Chinese revolutionary, who clearly was not born in HI, can obtain one of their COLBS.

As for the Australian who later obtained his very own HI COLB (according to him):

It was Penbrook Johannson of the "Daily Pen", who posted the comment on one of his other blogs.

"MAN IN THE MIRROR

Not surprisingly, Barack Obama and I share biographical similarities. We were fostered in paradise, along with a younger sibling, by our white grandparents whose origins once resided in Midwest America before moving west with hope of a better life for our family. Our American grandfathers served the United States as members of the military and we both had a close relationship with a maternal grandmother who passed away in 2008. We both claim a Christian faith, and we are both educated in professional fields attending college where we had occasion to write for the college newspaper.

We were both abandoned by our biological fathers who, at the time of our birth, both resided for some time in Hawaii. Then we were both paternally adopted. We were both born to educated, though wayward mothers during their less than discretionary teen years of the 1960’s. Both of our mothers moved to the Pacific Northwest soon after our birth and, later, became ill with incurable sickness as we entered into the endeavors of our professional lives. I, too, was issued a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth after applying for the document based on Hawaiian law 338-17 which allowed me to gain natural-born American natal status despite my birth in Brisbane, Australia. I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."

From the first comment in the thread: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2858622/posts

Note: I disagree with his assessment that he thinks he is therefore a natural born Citizen of the U.S. The point here, being, that he alleges to have been born in Brisbane Australia...but sometime later in life, obtained a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth.

83 posted on 03/23/2012 10:18:10 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Wow. I hadn’t read that before. Wow. Hawaii is quite corrupt.


85 posted on 03/23/2012 10:22:34 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - he's our only hope for change at this point)
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To: rxsid
Note: I disagree with his assessment that he thinks he is therefore a natural born Citizen of the U.S. The point here, being, that he alleges to have been born in Brisbane Australia...but sometime later in life, obtained a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth.

If he would be willing to SHOW both his Brisbane birth certificate AND his Hawaiian birth certificate, and attest that he is a foreign born person who posesses a Hawaiian birth certificate, it would help blow the lid off of people's lack of understanding regarding Hawaii.

I thought I had read something regarding you having been in contact with him. If this is the case, do you suppose you could ask him if he might be willing to provide copies of his documents? They would be incalculably useful.

91 posted on 03/23/2012 10:51:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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