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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I understand your trying to defend Santorum, but what is in store for our side if he gets the nomination, will prove to be a disaster. I firmly believe that.

The Santorum camp belives the same to be the case about Newt. And the GOP-E believes that about both men. Personally, I think a ham sandwich could beat Obama the way things are going.

Your beliefs about Santorum's electability does not justify using old left-wing attacks against him. We should condemn all such crap, instead of picking up the liberal hatchet jobs and using them.

148 posted on 03/18/2012 8:27:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Very good points! I have come to the point where it is almost a given that Romney will win. As much as I dislike that reality, now we all have to figure out a way to prevent any further damage. Forcing a brokered convention is about all we have left.

All the angst over Santorum, Newt, etc, is almost irrelevant. I am a realist. I learned that in my youth, when I fought to survive. Now, I do the same for my country in the best way I know how, with what I have left. I am sure you are doing the same and I don't fault you for any of it.

161 posted on 03/18/2012 8:51:18 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: dirtboy
[Personally, I think a ham sandwich could beat Obama the way things are going.]

Then you dangerously underestimate the level of delusion the enemy has managed to manufacture among the Useful Idiots who support him.

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"...
 
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts
 
 

162 posted on 03/18/2012 8:51:57 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: dirtboy

It seems to be clear now that Newt supporters will never accept Santorum as the nominee, even though he clearly is going to end up with a lot more states, a lot more delegates, and a lot more votes than Newt. Which means at the convention, if they have their way, they will make certain Santorum is not our pick.

Meanwhile, it has long appeared that a good number of Santorum supporters would never accept Newt, and not because he cheated on two wives, but for what he did politically in THIS century, including pre-presidential-run highly publicized positions on global warming, health care mandates, support for the medicare prescription drug plan, tarp, and other less-than-conservative actions.

Heck, last August Rick Perry was totally unacceptable because in 2001 he supported letting illegal immigrants pay college tuition at the in-state level. But now we don’t even TALK about immigration anymore, since it wouldn’t be good for Gingrich if we did.

And since Newt is hardly winning anything anymore, he’ll never enter the convention with enough support to be anything but a spoiler. And he doesn’t play spoiler very well, missing the opportunity to throw his support in Alaska caucus to Santorum to stop Romney (as Paul did in Missouri with Romney), and not having enough support IN Missouri to counter the Romney/Paul alliance).

So you have to wonder, why is this article and others attacking Santorum being posted so regularly now? The “Gingrich Plan” we are told is for both men to get as many votes as possible, but these articles are designed to destroy Santorum, which will only help Romney (even if some votes go to Gingrich, they were already anti-Romney votes, so all this does is push SOME voters to Romney).

So, what happened to the “Gingrich plan”? Was it a ruse all along? Is this scorched earth — “If people won’t vote for OUR candidate, they can just be stuck with Romney”?

Last week, after Santorum won the two southern states, I held out a slim hope that it could be a game-changer, which we needed; something to shake up the race.

But this article pretty much seals it for me. After months praying that we wouldn’t be stuck with Romney, it appears that a good number of conservatives are pushing for just that result now.


192 posted on 03/18/2012 10:27:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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