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To: Gene Eric

“The citizens must have Liberty in order for morality to thrive. Every Christian should know this.”

Liberty only works on a “moral” people. Anyone with sense knows this - as did the founding fathers.

All I know as a Christian is that I cannot make someone “moral” (that is internal) I can only regulate their behavior. So, I’m not advocating regulating morality, just behavior.

Also, as a Christian, it is clear from reading ALL of scripture, that God judges nations where immorality is allowed to go unchecked. The righteous suffer with the guilty. One of the reasons that the homosexual agenda is moving forward is that hetereosexual behavior in this country is deplorable.

“Liberty” in scripture is never used in a context that would suggest it is used for immoral behavior.

There is NOTHING in scripture that would suggest that “morality” thrives based upon the “liberty” to behave in any manner you chose - only to have the liberty to worship God and follow HIS commandments. In fact scripture is clear that GOD ordained government to keep evil in check.


313 posted on 03/15/2012 9:19:39 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
All I know as a Christian is that I cannot make someone “moral” (that is internal) I can only regulate their behavior. So, I’m not advocating regulating morality, just behavior.

Translation: If I can't make the sorry SOB's believe as I believe then by God I'll make them act as I think they should.

Oh yeah. That is the American way. You would so love states like Cuba, and you don't even have the wherewithal to know it. Disheartening.

316 posted on 03/15/2012 9:23:36 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sola Veritas

The Liberty I refer to is Founding law. If I was hoping to advance anarchy or immorality, I would have said so.

My Faith in Christianity is not at all a function of govt. It may bring you comfort to have govt enforce the New Testament, but it’s not my preference especially in light of the 50+ million *legal killings* that have occurred over the last 40 years.

You casually spun my use of Liberty into the absurd form of immortality perhaps to justify the statism you feel is necessary to corral the unruly. Well guess what, that’s the same attitude Obama has: control.

I regret the suggestion the 1st Amendment is a device of Christianity instead of a promise to respect it.


327 posted on 03/15/2012 10:14:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Sola Veritas; All

You mean like Ben Franklin who was a “moral” person????


336 posted on 03/16/2012 3:28:33 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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