Posted on 03/06/2012 4:59:47 AM PST by Ben Barrack
I hereby await the fires of hell as my eventual fate for this character flaw.
At a miniumum it keeps them from the Temple which keeps them from returning to God the Father (highest level of Heaven aka the Celestial Kingdom) and from becoming gods themselves.
And these same people used to condemn me for drinking camomile tea. Go figure.
I have, they’re for real.
Perhaps they had just acquired the land for the temple in the 70’s and that’s why they were advertising. The way building permits go in NYC a 15 year completion date would make sense.
I’ve never met a NY Mormon in my life. Leads me to wonder if the people attending the NYC temple are Mormon tourists.
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I know they didn’t aquire the land until the 1990’s - I remember reading about when they bought it. It is not impossible, but is unusual to go to other temples, most Mormons go to the temple nearest them. I know there are several wards (congregations) in NYC and a friend’s son served his LDS mission there. There are NYC Mormons, probably mostly those who work on Wall Street.
I asked my husband if he remembered the commercials and he did. He said the LDS had a store front reading room in the Lincoln Center area at that time and the commercials were for that.
Yes; that IS sufficient to call it NUTTY.
But ONLY compared to Christianity.
The MORMONs have made the claim that ONLY they are the 'true' Christians; based on a 'claim' that the BIBLE is somehoiw lacking.
They have NEVER shown any evidence that it IS lacking; other than to compare THEIR 'scriptures' to it.
In the real world that is known as circular logic.
"It's true 'cause we say it is" don't quite cut it.
Good for you!
Now, read about 'the stature of Joseph Smith' in The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints:
"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?Brigham Young,--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
Everett McGill: Pete - it's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.
Elsie: Especially a MORMON one!
I think my father used to drink it by the gallon. This is what my grandmother on my mother’s side told me.
My parents divorced when I was one and I didn’t grow up with him,so I don’t know about the Mt. Dew.
He did smoke like a chimney but has since stopped.
How is Catholicism a cult?
LOL, you condemn all of Protestant Christians in service to the Mormon cult.
I hereby await the fires of hell as my eventual fate for this character flaw.
Your Catholic pose is getting holes, as you mock Christianity, again, in service to the Mormon cult.
Asking an ex-Mormon that question could be painful after they convert to Christianity.
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It’s ok, Ansel. It is something that most ex-mo’s who have become Christians have to deal with, especially if they brought people into Mormonism either as an LDS missionary or as just a member.
Many of us, especially those who completed their mission, send out letters after we leave, sharing our Christian testimony and explaining why Mormonism is false and encouraging them to leave as well. You don’t always keep in touch so those I just pray for that some other Christian will come into their lives and work to get them out of Mormonism.
That's NOTHING!
Did you know that COKE® contains over 99% of a similar retardent!?
A little known chemical named dihydrogen monoxide.
Coffee has a tendency to give me heartburn. Just don’t drink too much if it has caffeine. Caffeine irritates the stomach and I developed gastritis because of my large soda consumption.
We COULD; but WHY?
Yes. Hot tea is better than soap! (Not really.)
I just don’t have it in me to condemn a person for their religions views if they are decent, family oriented , productive people.
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First of all, Mormons are not nearly as decent, family oriented , productive people as they will lead you to believe. Unfortunately most people don’t see that until they are already in it.
Second being decent, family oriented , productive people doesn’t get you to Heaven or keep you from Hell. Only Christ does and the Bible is clear on that.
Again, you still have not responded about how your reconcile your view in contrast to the words of Christ. What is more important to you, your Catholic religion or Jesus?
Oy,vey! I’m cooling off on the Coke!!
And yet you do have it in you to condemn US for doing what the Bible commands us to do. Why is that?
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