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Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill

Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; corsi; hawaii; joearpaio; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe; timadams
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To: Erik Latranyi

He doesn’t name a single name. To bad he didn’t - we could then ask the election officials directly.


61 posted on 03/03/2012 11:40:02 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Erik Latranyi
John Woodman: Self-employed and self-proclaimed computer expert whose youtube videos say that Obama's long form birth certificate is NOT a fake or forgery: What are his credentials?

I just recently saw his Obama birth certificate videos on youtube so I don't know much about him.

Is his Obama birth certificate conclusion and analysis that the certificate is NOT a fake accurate and believable? Thanks.

62 posted on 03/03/2012 12:17:28 PM PST by john mirse
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To: trebb
You ask a good question...if he was born in Seattle, why try so hard to prove that he was born in Hawaii, or rather, why try so hard NOT to prove it...

All along, little Barry has been nothing more than a story someone else made up. Breitbart used the term "narrative" quite often--because that was what was sold to us, the narrative. The son of a Kenyan scholar, yada yada...all these zombies went out and voted not for a man, but for a blurb on a book jacket.

Since all this secrecy invites speculation, I like best the scenario that Jack Cashill suggested...that Barry's not Stanley Ann Dunham's son at all. He's her brother. Barry's mom was a black Hawaiian prostitute pimped by Stanley Dunham's friend, Frank Marshall Davis. Barry's grandfather is really his dad.

If you look at the photos of the two of them, especially when Barry was little and Stanley was young, the resemblence is startling. He looks a lot more like his "grandfather" than his Kenyan "father."

This would explain why Ann so easily left Barry behind, because she felt sisterly towards him, not motherly. There is more to the story...how much Stanley wanted a son (named his daughter Stanley) and how Barry's grandmother seemed to die almost in secrecy.

There are a lot more interesting stories out there than the Kenyan one.

We don't need to show that he's not a US citizen.

All we have to do is prove that the narrative is a lie.

63 posted on 03/03/2012 1:18:17 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: .45 Long Colt

I believe the National Health Care act was passed in 1966.


64 posted on 03/03/2012 1:37:19 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Sigh...

Anything about a Pakistan travel ban in there too?


65 posted on 03/03/2012 2:32:45 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Kevmo

IIRC this guy DID come forward previously, but nobody paid attention when he spoke out.

Now, with a credible authority asking for and getting an affidavit and with a likely perp ID’d by that authority for forgery, perhaps Tim Adams can get some traction.


66 posted on 03/03/2012 3:15:41 PM PST by Sal (Soros owns ALL the 'Rats and the GO PEE (self appointed Establishment Elite)
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To: Mr. K

Seattle? LMAO!

Yeah. I agree. Remember, there were so many stories that have since been scrubbed that indicated he was born abroad.


67 posted on 03/03/2012 8:04:46 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Mamzelle

“How usual was it in 1961? How usual was flying on a plane in 1961, as a teen alone and with a mixed race infant?”

She wasn’t alone. SADO left the Nairobi Airport on a BOAC flight accompanied by a Christian missionary woman. The flight was: Nairobi - Edingurgh - Vancouver, B.C. (Canada).


68 posted on 03/03/2012 11:06:32 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This is actually an old story, which I thought had gone away after it was discovered he turned the whole thing into a hilariously-bad piece of gonzo journalism for his masters thesis.


69 posted on 03/04/2012 2:48:19 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Mamzelle

Obama’s mother started college in Seattle in August 1961 not the spring. It was actually less than 3 weeks from the supposed 4 August 1961 birth date. I have my own theory, Stanley Ann Dunham was pregnant and the reason the family moved to Hawaii in 1960. She was pregnant when she attended the University of Hawaii in the fall of 1960. She did not enroll for the Spring Semester at the University of Hawaii in 1960...has anyone asked why she did not enroll? In Jan 1961 She was not married to Barack Obama Sr and if recently impregnated by him she would have just discovered and would likely not prevented her from enrolling in the spring. It is a lot easier for her (1 month pregnant) to attend college when she is living at home with her parents in Hawaii than by herself(18 yr old) in Seattle with a 2 week old newborn. My guess is Obama was born Jan-Mar 1961, could have been in Hawaii of could have been in North America...have a hard time believing it was Kenya.


70 posted on 03/04/2012 3:34:33 PM PST by Paratrooper
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To: Mamzelle

Obama was born in August.


71 posted on 03/04/2012 3:50:36 PM PST by Diggity
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To: Erik Latranyi

Same thing the newly-elected Governor said after campaigning on a promise to release the long-form birth certificate.


72 posted on 03/04/2012 3:54:19 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Kleon
This is actually an old story, which I thought had gone away after it was discovered he turned the whole thing into a hilariously-bad piece of gonzo journalism for his masters thesis.

I remember it too. Might even be 2 years old now. I listened to a radio panel discussion centering on the Tim Adams "revelations" at that time. Wish I could remember the show/date.

Adams, who claimed to have been some manager in a records office of the Hawaiian govt, was attacked by the four other "birther" panelists as being untrustworthy. Basically, he and his story fell apart. It was obvious to me at the time that he was simply regurgitating commonly available internet lore. The 2 hour discussion went quite weird near the end with the scatter-brained Adams' back-peddling and contradictions, and another panelist's foray into the world of white supremacists.

That radio show weirded me out and, as a result, I have no confidence in Adams, nor his story.... whatsoever.

73 posted on 03/04/2012 4:26:10 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

This story is over a year old...why are you making it sound like it happened the day after Arpaio's press conference?

74 posted on 03/04/2012 4:44:39 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: El Sordo
What is your explanation for Gov. Abercrombie's broken promise to shut down birthers for good and move forward regardless of administration's wishes to prove that Obama was born in a hospital in Honolulu.

Why did he back down after such bombastic announcements in major media outlets CNN, ABB, NBC...?
After all, according to his words, after being elected as Gov of Hawaii,”discrediting anti-Obama birthers was his top priority”?

According to ABC article (Dec 24, 2010): “Now Abercrombie has an office of his own — he became governor of Hawaii on Dec. 6. — and he intends to do something about it. What, exactly, is unclear. But in an interview this week at the state Capitol, he left little doubt that torpedoing the conspiracy theorists was a priority.”

Please pay attention to his choice of using strong words illustrating determination to resolve birther issue.

Now please explain to me: Why did Abercrombie refuse to publish the original birth index information? Hawaii DoH has complete authority to publish this information. Why is this information still hidden from public?

75 posted on 03/04/2012 7:13:31 PM PST by nosf40
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I have a better question for you: Why is Gov. Abercrombie still hiding the original birth index from 1961? According to Hawaii Law, statute 338-18 (d), director of DoH (Abercrombie's appointee) can release this information to the public. I am not talking about computer generated printout but the original birth registration index.
76 posted on 03/04/2012 7:22:20 PM PST by nosf40
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To: Diggity
Ok, fall, not spring...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/a_further_inquiry_into_obamas_1.html

77 posted on 03/04/2012 8:56:29 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: nosf40
AFAIK, the Birth index from that time period has already been seen and had it's own day in the sun as being the Birther’s latest magic bullet. When it got them nowhere, they moved on to their next fixation. That was back in 2010, I think. The Birthers have gone down so many dead ends that it is hard to keep track of them.

Abercrombie stated that he saw the birth record, and that it was there. He is however prevented by state law from disclosing it or information in it. He apparently shot his mouth off prior to understanding this limitation of the governor's office. It's the same limitation that kept his GOP predecessor (you know, the one that spoke at the RNC convention in 2008) from disclosing it as well.

But Birthers like to skip that part. It skews the meme.

78 posted on 03/04/2012 9:15:38 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Getting the ducks in a row.

Arizona is getting ready to pop the Skinny from the ballot.


79 posted on 03/04/2012 9:22:45 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

No, they are not.


80 posted on 03/05/2012 8:28:54 AM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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