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Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill

Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; corsi; hawaii; joearpaio; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe; timadams
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To: Mamzelle

A jet flight out of Kenya either to Hawaii or Washington state in the time frame given is possible. It is also possible Obama had a different birth date than the one given/recorded by Hawaii records. There are too many dots to be connected for me to dismiss a Kenyan birth by Obama.


321 posted on 03/07/2012 4:20:48 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Ray76

The best way to check would be to compare the electronic copy to the original - right?

They can’t tell you what elements of the electronic document are real and which are fake - so why should we believe that any of it is fake?


322 posted on 03/07/2012 5:06:02 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196

Applying your theory, detecting a counterfeit dollar bill is impossible without comparing it to the plates.

Yet bills are routinely tested to determine if they are counterfeit, and the test does not refer to the plates.


323 posted on 03/07/2012 5:19:36 PM PST by Ray76
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To: philman_36

And we know that you are never condescending or insulting, right?

What a hypocrite.


324 posted on 03/07/2012 5:20:18 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
And we know that you are never condescending or insulting, right?
I have reason to be so with you and you know it.
You should watch out for the holes you dig yourself into.

Rule #1 for digging holes...stop digging!

325 posted on 03/07/2012 5:27:50 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ray76

If you are going to say that the electronic copy is not the same as the purported scanned original you need the original. That is what they are saying. How can you say that without never seeing the original?

They are pointing to software artifacts created by first scanning and then converting the document to a pdf and saying there was never a scanned original to start with. That is pure BS. That is Jerome Corsi’s book from a year ago recycled as an “investigation”.


326 posted on 03/07/2012 5:28:46 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

So it is not really bad behavior just reserved for certain people? Got it.

The hole digging thing is funny - if you are nice I will help pull you out of the massive pit you are in when November rolls around and Obama is on the ballot in every state. We can then work together to defeat him in the general election.


327 posted on 03/07/2012 5:33:30 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
So it is not really bad behavior just reserved for certain people?
IMO you've richly earned anything and everything directed your way. And from the replies I've seen it's coming from multiple sources, not just me.

Got it.
Maybe and maybe not, but you'll eventually 'get it' one way or another.

328 posted on 03/07/2012 5:41:20 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
We can then work together to defeat him in the general election.

@In The Air Tonight
Second verse, first line.

329 posted on 03/07/2012 5:44:58 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
As you have said, an electronic copy has zero evidentiary value, since "ANYONE can alter them."

So why should anyone rely on it?

330 posted on 03/07/2012 5:45:03 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Exactly my point - since they have zero evidentiary value how can the CCP use one as evidence of fraud?

And no one has used the BC on the white house web site for anything more than informing the general public - how else do you show your BC to millions of Americans?

Obama has never used the pdf copy of his BC for any legal purpose so what’s the big deal? He didn’t use it in Arizona to get on the ballot, for example, so no legal issues there.


331 posted on 03/07/2012 6:13:53 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

Good thing I don’t take it personally. I like it here and look forward to these exchanges for the foreseeable future.

‘get it’ one way or another? Have you ever left the school yard? Haven’t heard talk like that since I was 10. No wonder your threats come across as hollow and meaningless.


332 posted on 03/07/2012 6:20:47 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
And no one has used the BC on the white house web site for anything more than informing the general public - how else do you show your BC to millions of Americans?
Posting a pdf file as the real thing with the level of suspicious tampering as that had on it is informing the public?
You're unbelievable! Your real name must be Ben Dover.
333 posted on 03/07/2012 6:25:09 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
I like it here and look forward to these exchanges for the foreseeable future.
You're going to ride the lightning one day and it'll be by your own doing. You'll push somebody just a bit too far or you'll step over the line with the wrong person and that'll be it.

You even know it and admit it...for the foreseeable future.
I would say that you even want it.

334 posted on 03/07/2012 6:28:54 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
No wonder your threats come across as hollow and meaningless.
What threats have I ever made towards you?
335 posted on 03/07/2012 6:34:24 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

Thanks for playing. We’ll buy you a bus ticket home.


336 posted on 03/07/2012 6:38:18 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Harlan1196
Obama has never used the pdf copy of his BC for any legal purpose so what’s the big deal?
LIE!

Jablonski sent a copy of the long and short form to Kemp in his protest letter.

337 posted on 03/07/2012 6:47:21 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

If you can stay here as insulting and rude as you are, I don’t think I have anything to worry about.

I won’t be zotted for disagreeing with you. You are the only person I have these long exchanges with. The others don’t seem to obsess about it or get upset about it like you do.


338 posted on 03/07/2012 6:49:55 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Ray76

Nice talking to you. Have a good evening.


339 posted on 03/07/2012 6:50:31 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
If you can stay here as insulting and rude as you are, I don’t think I have anything to worry about.
All I can say is...You've got a lot to learn.

I won’t be zotted for disagreeing with you.
It's not disagreeing with people that will get you zotted.
(for a newbie you sure seemed to have learned rather quickly about getting the ZOT)

The others don’t seem to obsess about it or get upset about it like you do.
Ahhh, you're beginning to see the light. I'm rather unique, aren't I.
I don't pigeonhole easily and that seems to drive you crazy.

340 posted on 03/07/2012 7:07:27 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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