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To: varmintman

“Do all of that, and the drug problem and 70% of all urban crime will vanish within two years. That would be an optimal solution; but you could simply legalize it all and still be vastly better off than we are now. 150 Years ago, there were no drug laws in America and there were no overwhelming drug problems. How bright do you really need to be to figure that one out?”

Legalize drugs, and we will also create an entire new “drugunderclass” (I claim credit for the word) that will be, for all intents and purposes, unemployable wards of the state.

The reality is that many employers (most?) now test for drug use, and can [legally] refuse to hire those who are verified “users”.

In my field (railroading, now retired), drug testing was mandated by federal law and regulation. No drugs, on or OFF the job. Of course, with random testing, the testing procedures can detect use within the previous weeks. Hard to get around. I was actually “caught” once for opium usage — which was because on the day of the test, I had eaten a hard roll filled with poppy seeds. After a phone conversation with the company medical officer, I was permitted to work -after- submitting to an exam in which they checked me for “needle usage”. Made for an interesting day.

Again, if drugs are made legal, we should expect to see employers “push back” by INCREASING the amount of drug testing, so as to ensure that their employees are drug-free. And those who by personal weakness, aided and abetted by a government system that feeds their habits, will be relegated to the ranks of the permanently unemployed and unemployable. Employers will do this as a matter of self-protection; they will have no choice.

Of course, in keeping with “civil rights”, as a consequence of laws which “make drugs legal”, there will certainly come corresponding laws which ban “drug testing” as a condition of new or continued employment.

It’s only logical that if we “make drugs legal”, that we also “protect the rights” of drug users against evil employers and capitalists, eh?


31 posted on 03/03/2012 8:08:20 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
Again, if drugs are made legal, we should expect to see employers “push back” by INCREASING the amount of drug testing, so as to ensure that their employees are drug-free. And those who by personal weakness, aided and abetted by a government system that feeds their habits, will be relegated to the ranks of the permanently unemployed and unemployable. Employers will do this as a matter of self-protection; they will have no choice.

Of course, in keeping with “civil rights”, as a consequence of laws which “make drugs legal”, there will certainly come corresponding laws which ban “drug testing” as a condition of new or continued employment.

I was about ready to challenge you on your first paragraph but you stole my thunder with the next. Certainly that is what will happen. Can't discriminate against them anymore than you can discriminate against someone for using Lipitor. They're both legal.

33 posted on 03/03/2012 8:15:05 AM PST by DouglasKC
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