I will suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for Obama's Grandparents to have Adopted him, especially if he had been adopted by His Mother's second husband (Lolo Soetoro) in Indonesia. (Evidence exists to indicate this.) In the process of (His Grandparents) acquiring legal custody of Barry Soetoro, it may very well have required both Barack Sr. and Stanley Ann to sign some documents. This would explain their simultaneous presence.
I will point out once again, that thereafter he lived with his grandparents. It would be foolish to assume that they did not engage in some sort of legal process to be his legal guardians.
An adoption would help to makes sense of (most of) this mess of confusing facts.
You are so off base. If in fact he was adopted his birth certificate would have the adopted parents names on the certificate and not the original parents.
"Always lie. Lie big. Never lie about small things. Make the lies so big and outrageous that any accuser seems to be without merit. Never mix truth with lies, as that only serves to trip you up." - Bill Clinton, from Year of The Rat, 1996
Have you ever seen any photos of her pregnant?
Unless of course you are an Obama plant, then just go away.
Obama acts like a spoiled rich kid who never had to work a real days work in his life. Not to mention he is a pathological lier and some kind of screwed up indiviual. Probably just your average messed up Marxist crackpot?
Obama acts like a spoiled rich kid who never had to work a real days work in his life. Not to mention he is a pathological lier and some kind of screwed up indiviual. Probably just your average messed up Marxist crackpot?
From age 10 to age 18, Obama was in the legal custody of Catholic Social Services of CT (Explains his CT SSN). His grandmother was appointed as his guardian. After he turned 18, he naturalized as a US citizen.
That's only germane if it would not be apparent to a competent investigator examining your birth certificate that it is an amended birth certificate.
I don’t think any of it matters anyhow. Even if it was absolutely proved a fraud, nobody that is able would do anything about it. It is what it is and he is there until we vote his butt out or his time runs out.
About the only chance of it mattering would be in some future history book, if there is truth to the fraud...perhaps they will tell the tale.
Even if you are right about the BC...
It doesn’t make him look good.
What about the Selective Service Card Forgery and fake SS numbers.
My mother and bio father were divorced, my mother remarried and her new husband adopted me. I have two birth certificates same mother and my bio father. The second BC has my ‘new’ name and my adopted father who appears as my bio father, both have BCs have the same address where we lived when I was born.
“I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health”
[both of my BCs were created by the Department of Health of the state I was born. My ‘replacement BC’ looks nothing like my original BC’. I think you should verify your source[s]
Seems to me then that no matter how much trouble it is the state of Hawaii -- with Obama's approval -- could produce the actual 1961 (1971 or whatever) document. Seems to me that it would solve a lot of problems and be worth the effort.
Sheriff Joe said it's a forgery -- so just release the real thing.
All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫
I remember people saying that it's all a trap. An October 2012 surprise will be the real document and all the "birthers" will be proved to be total fools, Obama will win by carrying all 57 states and . . . .
Well it ain't going to happen .. they overplayed their hand with this shenanigan -- BTW the news conference said that they have the name of a person "of interest" who could be or know who done it.
Get a clue. As Rush said, “dumb people are too dumb to know it.”
Do you really believe that the State of Hawaii would allow an 18 year old girl that is married to a foreign student to adopt a child when neither of them had any income, and weren’t even living together?
“ONce again”
Well, if you did it once why are you doing it again, just to be annoying about it or are you just arrogant and think we must adopt your opinions and you will keep posting this until we do?
DL, I have always give serious consideration to this theory. For what it is worth, I think you are right. An adoption would most certainly cause changes to be made in Barry’s birth documents, changing them permanently until such a time as Barry decided to tell the state to revert the records to their original state, undoing the adoption. That would be part of the record as well, but could NOT erase the change in his citizenship status, particularly if he had gone to school as a foreign student!!!
Why would his supposed mother Stanley Anne want her parents to adopt her son? Her first born? Funny that was the same year Frank Marshall Davis and his wife got a divorce and she left. That’s when he and Gramps began hanging out with ole Frank and became Barry’s mentor.
You really are out in left field with that crap you wrote. You know that, right?
But Obama's mom didn't seem like the sort of person who did things by the book. If Indonesia said her child had to be a Muslim and the son of a citizen, I really doubt she had him converted or adopted. She probably just told the authorities what she or Lolo thought they wanted to hear.
Likewise with turning her son over to her parents. There may or may not have been some kind of guardianship or power of attorney, but I doubt she'd let the grandparents legally adopt him. By all accounts she wasn't much for paperwork and formalities. If nothing was on paper, she could maintain that what happened was temporary and that she was still a good and responsible mother.
Also, if it was just about paperwork, I really doubt they would have wanted to bring Barack Sr. to Hawaii. They could have worked through a lawyer and just exchanged documents.
You came to FR in April, 2011. For nearly TWO years you have done ONE thing on FR and only one thing and that is try to defend Barry Soetoro and the issue of his birth certificate and other inconsistencies.
You post on NO other threads, NONE!!! The ONLY thing you do on FR is defend Barry Soetoro and your past posting history is proof of that.
Therefore you are a troll and it’s sad the mods haven’t noticed what is as obvious as the nose on their face.
Here is your first page of past posts from 4/2011. Each one up until today looks the same. All defending the Kenyan usurper.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:diogeneslamp/index?more=75584307