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To: LeopoldvonRanke
RE :”SO you concede the point at hand?

Of course not, but your Bishop example did move me a bit in your direction,.

I still think this could end up helping dems and being counterproductive. If Obama gets re-elected and Pelosi re-takes the House you can bet that repealing DOMA would be high on their list. But I dont have a crystal ball and so this may blow over by November.

One big advantage Dems have politically is that this doesnt go into effect until 2013. That makes it difficult to actually demonstrate to voters that Obama is going after the Church. If this was in effect now the Church could refuse to follow the law in protest and force Obama into a possible lose-lose decision.

163 posted on 03/02/2012 11:43:12 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

“Of course not, but your Bishop example did move me a bit in your direction.”

Like I said the Church has been fighting this since day 1 when Obama shovelled it out. You’re welcome to fight alongside us.

“I still think this could end up helping dems and being counterproductive.”

How is standing up for religious freedoms counterproductive? If we don’t fight then the issue will continue to be pushed, because the Obama administration will believe it can win forever.

“If Obama gets re-elected and Pelosi re-takes the House you can bet that repealing DOMA would be high on their list.”

True - but if we lose on this issue here - then we’ve lost one of the core guarantees of the constitution. If it can happen to the first amendment, then it can happen to the second too.

“If this was in effect now the Church could refuse to follow the law in protest and force Obama into a possible lose-lose decision.”

Newsflash, that’s the battle that’s going on right now. Obama is forcing Catholic nuns to pay for contraception.


164 posted on 03/02/2012 11:55:02 AM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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