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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yes, JSNTN, alcohol, caffeine, heck a candy bar affect the mind. Libertarians want everything black and white. That is not reality.

A person who has a glass of wine or two, is not retarding themselves or making themselves crazy. A bottle of Jack? Yep. Our society plugs it at about .08 alcohol in the blood, give or take. Arbitrary? Somewhat. Yet, a line must be drawn. In a real world.

Lines get drawn in somewhat arbitrary fashions. For instance, what is an “adult?” I was pretty much an adult by 16. Some 20 year olds I know are not any sort of adult. Most of us fall somewhere in between. Society “arbitrarily” chooses 18, right now. There have been variations and exception in human history. Yet, a line must be drawn. In a real world.

Can you function perfectly nicely after having one hit or two of pot? I think so. Society could perhaps choose a level of inebriation, a thc blood content or something, to rather arbitrary define the difference between unwinding and stoned out of the gourd. I’ve seen people so stoned on pot they are incoherent. I’ve seen the long term effects of paranoia and uselessness that accompany pot. But will one hit do it to you? No.

You’d like to pretend that we can get high to the point of stupidity or crazy and it won’t affect others. That is a false belief. It is not a conservative belief. And my beliefs are not liberal.

They are realistic. You need to get out of the realm of the theoretical and live a real life. Where people must interact with each other and there must be a minimum of trust, sanity, and rationality.

Otherwise, the nuts rule the world. And nuts are not usually very nice.


204 posted on 02/13/2012 2:25:06 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
A person who has a glass of wine or two, is not retarding themselves or making themselves crazy. A bottle of Jack? Yep. Our society plugs it at about .08 alcohol in the blood, give or take.

That line is for being in public. Our society lets you get drunk as a skunk in the privacy of your home (or that of any willing host) - regardless of your severly diminished ability to look out for your fellow citizens.

Again, if you truly believed the arguments you're advancing for the current drug laws, you'd have to support much stronger laws than are currently in place against the drug alcohol. Do you?

Can you function perfectly nicely after having one hit or two of pot? I think so. Society could perhaps choose a level of inebriation, a thc blood content or something, to rather arbitrary define the difference between unwinding and stoned out of the gourd. I’ve seen people so stoned on pot they are incoherent. I’ve seen the long term effects of paranoia and uselessness that accompany pot. But will one hit do it to you? No.

So there's no basis for regulating marijuana more strictly than alcohol - right?

You’d like to pretend that we can get high to the point of stupidity or crazy and it won’t affect others. That is a false belief. It is not a conservative belief.

"Affect" others is a liberal test, not a conservative one. If you're not violating any rights nor posing a clear and present danger, you're not the proper concern of government.

205 posted on 02/13/2012 2:41:43 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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