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To: zzeeman

I’m a committed Catholic, believe abortion is infanticide, do not do or believe in doing drugs-not even prescription ones-live a natural lifestyle, vote Republican, and consider myself a libertarian.

I may not take the drugs, eat the processed food, have indiscriminate sex, etc, but I do not care if other people chose to do it in their own homes-but don’t try to tell me it is the right/only way. As you said, it is all about personal responsibility-you really CAN’T legislate morality-look how many civilizations have tried and ended up taken down by the law of unintended consequences.


141 posted on 02/10/2012 2:44:35 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

bingo... that is why there are no moral issues in the constitution... EVERY society that has tried to legislate morality has eventually become totaltarian... that is why one of our founding fathers said, “ This document is designed for a moral people. It will not work for any other”. They were not saying that morality is to be regulated and controlled. On the contrary, it was a WARNING that to try and regulate morality would end in the destruction of the country. Why, do some ask? I will give the answer, and it ain’t pretty...

Morality is subjective. How, you say? Well, I have my morals, they are etched in stone. You have your morals, and THEY are etched in stone. As long as we are private citizens, there is nothing subjective there.

Bill clintoon has his morals, and they are etched in stone. Are his morals the same as yours? No they are not. What, then is the difference between clintoons morals and yours?

He was the president of the united states, and could inflict his morals upon us. Not a very pretty picture, is it?

Hitler instilled his morals upon his people. Stalin imposed his morals upon his people. Mandella imposed his morals upon his people. Now, fubo is imposing his morals upon us.

There is no difference between fubo imposing his morals upon us, or jerry falwell imposing his morals upon us. Either way, we are being told what to think, how to feel, how to act, and the ability to prosecute those who disapprove of the morals of the particular people or party in charge is too great to allow.

The constitution is very clear on what the feds can and cannot do. Any powers not specifically granted to the feds in the constitution is reserved for the states and the people respectively.

Morality is at best a states rights issue. But I feel issues relating to morality are best left in the hands of the people. Either you trust your people to do what is right or you don’t. Either way, you do not get to dictate to me how i feel or what i can do ( as long as it does not violate your civil rights)

I now stand ready to accept arguments pertaining to my statements. Please do not waste my time with, “ well what about murder” or other such illogical nonsense. Either debate with intellegence, or I will eat you for lunch.

Joe Fonebone


149 posted on 02/10/2012 3:05:23 PM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Texan5

It seems that you and I are pretty much in agreement. And yes, I also stopped all prescription drugs years ago when I became educated on the topic and learned of the all the harm they cause. The only thing I’ll take (and rarely at that) is an OTC ibuprofen if the aches & pain from manual labor get the better of me. We also avoid as much food as possible that has any additives of any type. Truth be told we are all a lot healthier and feel better since we improved our diet years ago. But as you say, I certainly don’t want government banning any of that stuff that others may wish to purchase and ingest.


153 posted on 02/10/2012 3:18:42 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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