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To: PA-RIVER

I like this game, Ma River! I won’t be able to play tonight, since I have to work tomorrow; and I’m out of Jameson, so I hope Jim Beam rye will do. I’ll work on those two, while you work on these:

“These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

“Only these were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

For a bonus round, try these:

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of two parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”


38 posted on 02/10/2012 12:56:38 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

You got it La La Boglical!!! Check it out !!! The Jim Beam Rye is even better!!! I can take two sentence with completely different meaning and they are now the same!!!

Ruth Bladder Gutsberg must be reading with shots of Jim Beam!!! I finaly understand the modern constitionalist!!!

And my mortgage has droppd from 1000 a month to 100 a month, and my girlfriend is actualy my wife!!

“These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

“Among a variety of others classes, these were also natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

For a bonus round, try these:

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of a parent who was a citizen became themselves, upon their birth, a citizen also.”


39 posted on 02/10/2012 5:00:24 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
You have to admit, this one is the nail in the coffin for the birther idiots. You can see that these two are the same without alcohol. If you just slam you head on a cement floor 5 times and then quickly read these two, they are exactly the same for about two minutes! You'll also see some spots that look like stars!

Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.

Some authorities go further and include as Natural born citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.

41 posted on 02/10/2012 5:18:21 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Since we have now established that these two sentences have the same meaning, we need to understand why the court wrote it with “Natural born” inserted into the second sentence:

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.”

“Some authorities go further and include as Natural born citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.”

I would suggest that the court was running low on ink and the Justice's hand may have started to cramp. So completing the sentence without “natural born” inserted was simply a matter of economy. Writing with a feather was difficult and messy, so allowing readers to fabricate their own translations was preffered. The writer knew that Justices such as Bladder Gutsburgh could construe any meaning in any sentence, (just as we have proved with our scientific Jim Beam test) so just getting the general topic on paper was the most important task at hand.

Sentences have meaning. They are basic constructs of thoughts. But unfortunately, these sentences were written by people 200 years ago, and most them white men. So we can dismiss most of what they have written as racist, bigoted and homophobic gibberish. After further review, I am convinced that leaving the "Natural born" out of that phrase was also an attempt to smear the first black president.

42 posted on 02/10/2012 5:56:52 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
For a bonus round, try these:

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of two parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

Excellent. Now we know why Ankeny said that Minor only considered situations when BOTH parents were citizens. Drinking also explains why they botched their citation of Wong Kim Ark.

Note that the Court in Minor contemplates only scenarios where both parents are either citizens or aliens, ...

50 posted on 02/11/2012 12:39:58 AM PST by edge919
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