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To: Harlan1196
Did you even read the letter from Hatfield?

Simply put, a review of the record in my clients' above -captioned cases reveals no evidence of Defendant's place of birth and no evidence of Defendant's mother's citizenship at the time of Defendant's birth. My clients did not enter into evidence any copy of Defendant Obama's purported birth certificate in these cases.

43 posted on 02/07/2012 5:35:02 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196; tablelamp
A running meme or setting the tone of the debate? Who knows.

@Irion and Hatfield conceded that he was born in Hawaii because the Minor 2 citizen parent theory is based on being born in the US. February 04, 2012

45 posted on 02/07/2012 5:54:09 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Welden did stipulate that Obama was born in Hawaii:

“Plaintiff Welden has already stipulated that the Defendant was born in Hawaii, that the Defendant is a U.S. Citizen, and that the Defendant was Constitutionally-qualified to serve as a U.S. Senator. See Welden Opp. Mtn. “

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/counsel-proposes-a-separate-hearing-for-welden-v-obama-ga

So the judge had in front of him:

1. One plaintiff that stipulated that Obama was born in Hawaii. And entered a birthcertificate to that effect.

2. Did not submit any evidence to challenge that stipulation.

3. And the ravings of Orly Taitz.

Why is hard to understand why he would rule that Obama was born in Hawaii?


78 posted on 02/08/2012 11:09:29 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

Welden did stipulate that Obama was born in Hawaii:

“Plaintiff Welden has already stipulated that the Defendant was born in Hawaii, that the Defendant is a U.S. Citizen, and that the Defendant was Constitutionally-qualified to serve as a U.S. Senator. See Welden Opp. Mtn. “

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/counsel-proposes-a-separate-hearing-for-welden-v-obama-ga

So the judge had in front of him:

1. One plaintiff that stipulated that Obama was born in Hawaii. And entered a birthcertificate to that effect.

2. Another plaintiff that did not submit any evidence to challenge that stipulation.

3. And the ravings of Orly Taitz.

Why is hard to understand why he would rule that Obama was born in Hawaii?


79 posted on 02/08/2012 11:09:57 AM PST by Harlan1196
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