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To: allmendream
Vattel was a man. He was not a God. His words only established what his own opinion of what natural law should be - they did not establish a universal law in every country on Earth.

No he wasn't or did E. de Vattel create natural law. He only observed and wrote about the subject in his treatise 'Principle of the Law of Nature Applied to the Conduct to the Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns. The title speaks for itself. He observed the natural behaviors or sovereigns over the centuries gone by. The Constitutional Founders were students of Vattel and believed in The Laws of Nations as they applied the the Law of Nations to the newly created US Constitution.

23 posted on 02/07/2012 2:59:23 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
The founders incorporated the idea of natural law into our Constitution - natural law being a subject far more vast and encompassing far more than one book by one man.

The title speaks for itself and speaks ONLY for itself - Vattel doesn't speak for the founders, the founders can speak quite well for themselves.

The document the founders wrote, the U.S. Constitution - only mentions or envisions two types of U.S. citizen going forward - those born with natural allegiance to these United States - and those who must be “naturalized” into that state of allegiance.

25 posted on 02/07/2012 3:07:53 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Red Steel
More excerpts of this butt kicking by Hatfield to Malihi:


"A sixth significant flaw in Judge Malihi's "Decision" is his failure to rule on Plaintiffs' Citation For Contempt filed against Defendant in these cases. Citing Defendant's (and defense counsel's) knowing, intentional, and deliberate failure to comply with Plaintiffs' Notice to Produce, Plaintiffs' Citation sought from Judge Malihi a certification to the Superior Court of Fulton County of the facts of the Defendant's contemptuous behavior for a determination by the superior court of appropriate action, including a finding of contempt. OSAH Rule 616-1-2-.22 (5) makes such a certification to the superior court mandatory, upon application of a party, when another party disobeys or resists any lawful order or process; neglects to produce, after having been ordered to do so, any pertinent book, paper, or document; or refuses to appear after having been subpoenaed. Incredibly, Judge Malihi did not even acknowledge the existence of the Plaintiffs' Citation For Contempt in his final ruling."



It cannot be anymore clearer that Malihi committed willful malfeasance.

26 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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