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To: DiogenesLamp

“but the Legal system is virtually united on their misunderstanding of the law. They can’t even comprehend the argument against it. “

The entire legal community can’t be wrong while a few non-lawyers have it right. The answer is right in front of you. It’s the simple answer, not the complicated, contorted arguments of Taitz, Apuzzo and Donogrio. The Chief Justice would not have sworn in someone who is not eligible.

Wong Kim Ark, Ankeny and Malihi decisions are unbeatable. It’s time to accept the courts have decided based on the correct interpretation of the Constitution and the Law. The decision in Wong points to the 14th amendment: there are only two kinds of citizen in the US - natural-born and naturalized. A person who is born here is a natural-born citizen and eligible to be President. Simple. Straight-forward. Direct. No contorted explanations meant to exclude people who might not have been considered citizens before the 14th amendment. No analysis of pdf’s and halos or stamp, stamp, stamp. No cherry-picking of books, articles, or dissenting side of SC opinions.

Barack Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. Stipulated to by the plaintiffs in Georgia. It’s time to accept he’s eligible to be the President, that he IS the President. He might even get re-elected. Instead of spending any more energy on incorrect legal interpretations that fail every time, it’s probably time to support Obama’s opponent in the election and get him out of the White House the old-fashioned way: beat him at the ballot box.


473 posted on 02/04/2012 7:46:15 AM PST by tablelamp
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To: tablelamp
"Barack Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. Stipulated to by the plaintiffs in Georgia. It’s time to accept he’s eligible to be the President, that he IS the President. He might even get re-elected. Instead of spending any more energy on incorrect legal interpretations that fail every time, it’s probably time to support Obama’s opponent in the election and get him out of the White House the old-fashioned way: beat him at the ballot box."


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You reek of obot.

483 posted on 02/04/2012 8:13:29 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: tablelamp

He will never be my President.


484 posted on 02/04/2012 8:18:22 AM PST by sport
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To: tablelamp
The entire legal community can’t be wrong while a few non-lawyers have it right.

Yes, when the Entire world believes the World is flat, Columbus cannot be correct.* When the Entire World has decided that the Earth is in fact round, and at the center of the Universe, Galileo must be wrong when he says that it is not. When the ENTIRE Scientific community says that Light is carried by Ether waves, the Albert Einstein must be mistaken when he says that it is not.

The answer is right in front of you. It’s the simple answer, not the complicated, contorted arguments of Taitz, Apuzzo and Donogrio. The Chief Justice would not have sworn in someone who is not eligible.

You ARE painfully unacquainted with the fallacy of Argumentum ad verecundiam. You are also not familiar with the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. BOTH fallacies are incorporated into your argument.

Wong Kim Ark, Ankeny and Malihi decisions are unbeatable. It’s time to accept the courts have decided based on the correct interpretation of the Constitution and the Law.

If this interpretation is correct, then why were Slaves and Indians not citizens? They were "born here" and they were "subject to the jurisdiction thereof", so why were THEY not citizens? When you learn to think for yourself, get back with me.

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* This is a common misunderstanding of the facts. Many people believed the world to be round at this time, (1492) but this fiction is widely repeated (as is the belief that being born here makes you a "natural" citizen) and so serves the purpose of my point.

487 posted on 02/04/2012 8:22:39 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: tablelamp
Barack Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. Stipulated to by the plaintiffs in Georgia.

Wow, you signed up today to to post that crap?

You has a funny smell....

523 posted on 02/04/2012 9:19:58 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: tablelamp
“The entire legal community can’t be wrong while a few non-lawyers have it right. The answer is right in front of you. It’s the simple answer, not the complicated, contorted arguments of Taitz, Apuzzo and Donogrio. The Chief Justice would not have sworn in someone who is not eligible.

Wong Kim Ark, Ankeny and Malihi decisions are unbeatable. It’s time to accept the courts have decided based on the correct interpretation of the Constitution and the Law. The decision in Wong points to the 14th amendment: there are only two kinds of citizen in the US - natural-born and naturalized. A person who is born here is a natural-born citizen and eligible to be President. Simple. Straight-forward. Direct. No contorted explanations meant to exclude people who might not have been considered citizens before the 14th amendment. No analysis of pdf’s and halos or stamp, stamp, stamp. No cherry-picking of books, articles, or dissenting side of SC opinions.

Barack Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. Stipulated to by the plaintiffs in Georgia. It’s time to accept he’s eligible to be the President, that he IS the President. He might even get re-elected. Instead of spending any more energy on incorrect legal interpretations that fail every time, it’s probably time to support Obama’s opponent in the election and get him out of the White House the old-fashioned way: beat him at the ballot box.”

Alas, to the conspiratorial mindset, any and all things are possible. It's fixation is not on objective assessment, but on what it psychologically needs to be true; any intrusion by reality is dismissed as biased, misinformed, sinister, etc. It's a very old pattern in human history. At least this one isn't actually spilling blood, even if it is doing some damage to the conservative cause.

But you're solution is dead on. If people want Obama out of the White House, they need to stop bedwetting and cringing from make believe monsters and volunteer to work their precinct to get the vote out for the Republican nominee in November. That's the actual Constitutional option.

621 posted on 02/04/2012 10:10:47 PM PST by tired_old_conservative (.)
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