Replies

You appear to be fighting against my statements on a case you are stating is the key to Natural Born Citizenship.

I am here to assist, not to cloud. For example, the Supreme Court decision clearly stated there were "outside" influences on the definition of Natural Born Citizenship. If the Supreme Court had made a decision on definitions beyond de Vattel's, they would have cited these cases. This was not the situation. They could not find any legal precedence to these "two parents born in the U.S." exceptions, especially at any level within the United States court system.

One could conclude they were referencing naturalization or natural born citizen attempts by Congress, or definitions from the Department of State. At this point there is no conclusive evidence to which “authority” they were referring to. It is clear, however, it was not SCOTUS, nor any Federal Court.

You appear to be fighting against my statements on a case you are stating is the key to Natural Born Citizenship.

I'm trying to prevent confusion. What you posted would have allowed for others to argue that some authorities define natural-born citizen differently and that the court left it open that the other definitions can be used. This just isn't the case. The argument the court made would not stand if NBC could mean ANYTHING other than what it used: all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens.

I am here to assist, not to cloud.

Then consider my post a friendly observation that you didn't succeed in not clouding the issue.

For example, the Supreme Court decision clearly stated there were "outside" influences on the definition of Natural Born Citizenship.

I understand what you're trying to do, but you're giving too much credit and overstating the court's position. When they talk about "some authorities" they can't preclude the involvement of the Supreme Court, because most of the states had their own citizenship laws and the Supreme Court may have respected or upheld one of those laws, such as in Shanks v. Dupont or Inglis v. Sailors Snug Harbor. The Minor decision is very deliberate in only characterizing one class of citizens as natural-born citizens, at the exclusion of any other class, whether there are doubts or not.