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To: devattel
Sorry, but immediately, this claim ...
The Supreme Court recognized "some authorities" to include other classes of citizens to be Natural Born Ones
... is wrong and is neither supported by the composition nor by the context.
The Supreme Court understood these authorities to be outside of the realm of SCOTUS ...
No, they considered these authorities to be outside the realm of certainty.
The Supreme Court cited de Vattel's Law of Nations when defining the Natural Born Citizenship definition
Close. Their definition matched close enough to be plagiarism since Vattel was not specifically cited.
The Supreme Court stated these "corner case" definitions not fitting this decision in past tense, meaning they were discussing prior definitions

The quoted term is not used at all. Perhaps you can cite the part of the decision to which you refer.

SCOTUS has defined what constitutes a Natural Born Citizen. Any other court will have to prove this definition to be wrong, or incomplete. Obama and his attorneys will have to prove to the courts their client meets this definition. The burden is now on the defendants to prove Obama is a Natural Born Citizen as we know based on this case that he does not fit the SCOTUS definition.

This is better. The natural-born citizenship definition was REFERENCED by the Supreme Court in this unanimous decision, but it was not technically defined by the Supreme Court. They used this definition to specifically characterize a class of persons who are always recognized as citizens with no doubts and linked this term specifically to the Article II requirement for presidential eligibility. That definition defeated Virginia Minor's claim of being a citizen by way of the first part of the 14th amendment. The NBC definition was used as a self-limiting characterization in the context of the Minor decision because they immediately distinguished it from persons who must rely on other means of gaining citizenship. You either fall in this class or you don't. Obama don't.

763 posted on 01/21/2012 11:16:28 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
Your arguments against my statements is nullifying your own prior arguments. Are you an operative in disguise?

I do not understand where you are coming from. These cases cited within the deliberation refer to de Vattel. They did not come to any conclusion based on heresay. And they are clear where the authority originated from. You apparently are not reading the deliberation verbatim. Please re-read the case and report back here.
766 posted on 01/21/2012 11:32:55 PM PST by devattel
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