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I’m not really seeing the point in discussing McCain any further. We could point to some Supreme Court cases that have cited Vattel specifically on the phrase about how the citizenship of children naturally follows the condition of the father. Second, the exclusions to the 14th amendment don’t make any sense unless those principles are applied to the children of our ambassadors and service men and women who are born abroad. Third, the Minor court said that in the Nationality Act of 1790 that “the children of citizens of the United States that might be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, should be considered as natural-born citizens. These provisions thus enacted have, in substance, been retained in all the naturalization laws adopted since.” The court says these provisions have been retained. I think this is the basis for the argument that George Romney was supposedly a natural-born citizen. If we’re going to have consistency, then the Supreme Court has recognized principles from Vattel and natural law, plus statutory law on nationality that declares person born abroad as being natural-born citizens. There’s also a common law argument that supports this idea too. Is it conclusive?? No. Does it matter in regards to Obama?? Even less. Let’s focus on the guy who is the actual problem. McCain is a distraction and a deflection.

I agree, but I also see a need to get the definition of NBC settled. We have others who wish or may wish to become POTUS and it is our best interest to try and settle this once and for all, at least for our generation. In 1967 the congress entertained and had entered into the congressional record an argument and definition of NBC because George Romney was considering a run for President. That record indicates that McCain would not be a NBC but implies, even though the specific circumstance of Obama's was not described, that Obama would be considered an NBC. http://www.scribd.com/doc/20829167/Natural-Born-Citizen-Congressional-Record-6-14-1967-p-15875-80

So I see a need to settle this for all.

“I’m not really seeing the point in discussing McCain any further.”

But how are the Obots going to keep on trolling without obfuscation and pointing to other people’s NBC status if they can’t reference McCain or Tebow or Rubio or Jindal or...

Obama is the focus here - legally. He’s the one usurping the presidency. They need to point fingers away from Obama.

Last time I checked McCain ATTEMPTED to become president. He did not succeed. The point is moot.

Obama has never proved that he “SHALL QUALIFY.”