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To: expat1000
A new revolution is already taking place, but it's not spearheaded by you guys. The ones who've mastered the trick of shifting the consensus are the libertarians.

Knock 'em if you like, but they've been successful at changing the terms of the debate. The old command-and-control liberalism is becoming outdated as we speak. Even the greenies are claiming they "accept the market."

And, of course, the heart of the Ron Paul faction is young folks.

[Yes, I know the government's still getting bigger...but you have to remember that the Progressives grabbed the consensus wheel when the U.S. government was still laissez-faire. Policy is a lagging indicator.]

The question remains, though: do social conservatives want to be revolutionary? Revolutionism, even in the mild sense meant by the author, is about as un-conservative as you can get. One advantage the libertarians have over social conservatives is that the former don't mind being called radical.

5 posted on 01/19/2012 12:39:42 AM PST by danielmryan
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When ever in the history of time did the so called ‘libertarians’ ever lead a charge and hold together a ‘civil’ productive society. What exactly is the ultimate goal of libertarians, it sure is not self discipline?

Gideon was NOT in any way, shape, fashion, or form a ‘libertarian’, he listened to and followed the Instruction given.


10 posted on 01/19/2012 1:29:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: danielmryan
A new revolution is already taking place, but it's not spearheaded by you guys

"You guys".. Hmm..

Revolutionism, even in the mild sense meant by the author, is about as un-conservative as you can get.

Only if you define conservatism as supporting the status quo no matter what it is. Then you get into absurdities like having to call the East German commissars 'conservatives' and the folks that overthrew them 'radicals'.

14 posted on 01/19/2012 2:32:27 AM PST by expat1000
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To: danielmryan

Excellent post!!! Take it a step further.... tell the people that there are 2 types of libertarians, capital L libertarians and small case l libertarians. The capital L are the nutjobs, and there numbers are small. The small case l libertarians are very close to conservative, just a little more constitution based. Those that say all libertarians are the same, I say all republicans are conservatives.... This is not true for the republicans, and it is not true for the libertarians..


23 posted on 01/19/2012 4:57:33 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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