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To: Johnny B.
"The quote from November is all the information that is publicly available. You insist on making up totally unsubstantiated guesses about possible changes, even though you are the one without a shred of evidence to support it."

Correct, it "is" all the information that is currently available. And I seem to recall you castigating me time after time by pointing out that information AFTER Rossi indicated that no further outside testing would happen, which you have all along ASSUMED was false. Who was guilty of "unsubstantiated guesses" then???

So now we have a piece of information from Rossi saying that he expects the collaboration to go forward, but in a time frame past the deadline. We now have a contradiction between the contract deadline and this new datum.

The hypothesis that explains both data is that Rossi got an extension. This may be correct, it may NOT be correct. But the simple point is that this goes in the category "insufficient data" UNTIL the U. of B. confirms or denies that the contract deadline has passed, and will or will not be extended.

So, we need more information to verify the hypothesis. But at this point, neither you or I KNOW what the situation is.

"By the way, have you been following the postings on Vortex today? Looks like the mountain of lies by Rossi are starting to crumble.

Yes, since well before you posted this tidbit. Again, a situation of many pieces of contradictory evidence. I've looked at the various "blink" video comparisons, and I do NOT see the "cut and dried" obviousness of identicality. The only real PROOF available is that "Rossi says" the pics show the same 1MW e-cat, and that the contradiction is from a language problem. Certainly the "evaluations" from the pictures are ridiculous.

I spent a short period of time at a company, one of whose businesses was assembling "instrument shacks" for large chemical plants. These were containers pretty much identical to what the 1MW e-Cat components are mounted in, but which, instead of e-cats, contained gas chromatographs, mass spectrometers, sample systems, etc. etc. When the assembly crews were working on several units intended to be identical (and yes, Virginia, there "are" chemical plants that big), they would even have marks on the concrete floor so that as the empty units came in, they would be placed in exactly the same spot. This was done to facilitate electrical hookup to external utilities, and the "workstations" of parts that were clustered around the unit under construction). And I can guarantee you that if you put together a "blink" comparison between two separate boxes, that they WOULD be identical in such a comparison, even to the point of having labels on vessels aligned the same. The crews that do this kind of assembly pride themselves on "getting it the same every time".

So, once again, we are reduced to "Rossi says". "Insufficient data" once again.

109 posted on 01/20/2012 5:32:21 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The hypothesis that explains both data is that Rossi got an extension.
No, the hypothesis that explains both is that Rossi is lying yet again.

January 21, 2011, Rossi says, "We made an important test with the University of Bologna, with whom we are going to make a 1 year research program also." (LINK)

March 3, 2011, Rossi says, "We are now making a R&D work with the University of Bologna." (LINK)

June 18, 2011, Rossi says, "In these days, together with the University of Bologna and with my Customers, we have made tests measuring not only dry steam, but also with really , really, REALLY high performances: they know, I know, we know. That’s enough." LINK)

November 5, 2011, the University of Bologna releases a press release (LINK) that specifically denies any involvement with any test conducted by Rossi:

E-cat: the University of Bologna is not involved

November 5, 2011

The clarification of the University on the experiments conducted by the company Leonardo Corp.

The 'University of Bologna - in reference to the report published on FoxNews.com and several articles published in recent weeks - states not involved in the experiments conducted by the company on the E-Cat Corp. owned by Leonardo Andrea Rossi.

The University also states that:

A) no experiment concerning E-Cat was held at the University of Bologna or October 28, 2011, or earlier dates, nor was conducted by researchers at the University;

2) the University of Bologna (Department of Physics) experiments on the apparatus is ready to play cat-and as soon as the contract signed with EFA Srl (Italian society of Andrea Rossi) will be made active to this end were to experiments, as observers, researchers at the University of Bologna.

The University continues to pay close attention to the evolution of the situation.


110 posted on 01/21/2012 2:45:41 AM PST by Johnny B.
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