Posted on 01/11/2012 8:57:03 AM PST by libertarian neocon
I know many in the Republican Establishment media want to coronate Romney as the GOP nominee and get to the general election but there is no reason why we have to let them do it. Yes, he won in Iowa and New Hampshire and no GOP candidate has won the nomination without first winning in either Iowa or New Hampshire but, besides tradition, there is really no reason that needs to be true:
Besides sticking it to the people who brought us George H.W. Bush, a great reason to stop Romney is that he would be a complete disaster both as the nominee and as President, if he is actually able to win. Please let me know when any of these country club establishment types has been good for the promotion of conservative ideals? How about never? There have been two Republicans who have done an effective job of promoting actual conservative ideals of small government and more freedom in the last 50 years and those are Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich. They both challenged the established order and won on their own terms despite being born to meager means. Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Dole, Bush II and McCain, they have all been disasters who have hurt the cause. What is the point of voting Republican when you get someone who acts like a Democrat. And that is exactly what we would be getting with Romney. You really think that independents are going to rush to his emotionally cut-off, vacuous, believe-in-nothing self, who is probably going to raise their taxes? Why would they? It's clear that they haven't been in either Iowa or New Hampshire. When you adjust for the Paul surge (given that he is a fringe candidate with borderline connections with the GOP) turnout actually went down in both Iowa and New Hampshire! Does that sound like people are excited? And just wait until every single Bain deal is picked apart with interviews with people whose lives were ruined by Romney. It's only the tip of the iceberg so far. Also, when people are down, they want someone to empathize with them. Romney has all the empathy of a wet sponge (kind of like George H.W. Bush). Romney is going to have a horrible time in the general election, he'd better hope Obama self-destructs (a good chance but not exactly guaranteed).
Even if Romney wins, it will be a disaster for anyone who believes in liberty. This guy with the timid 59 point plan brought to you by Bain Consulting is not the answer to our problems. He is going to tweak Obamacare, tweak the tax code (cut some taxes, raise some others), tweak our foreign policy, offering no real changes to the status quo. Does Romney strike you as someone who will suspend the environmental regulations that are keeping the United States from rightfully developing its energy resources? Nope. He is going to come in, and just like Obama, think about what he has to do to get re-elected. He will pander to Democrats to appear bipartisan and completely betray real Republicans. And Israel? Forget it. We will be stuck in the same place as before. All Romney has promised to do is to not criticize them publicly, that doesn't mean he actually agrees with them and will stop putting pressure on the Jewish state to negotiate with terrorists. After 4 years of a Romney Presidency, government will be bigger, our taxes will probably be higher and Congress will probably be in Democratic hands as the Tea Party support that helped propel us to victory in 2010, withers away after being betrayed in 2012.
Anyway, I know this is a long rant but I really feel strongly about this. We have to stop Romney, he is the antithesis of a Reagan Republican and will do more to destroy the Tea Party and the cause of liberty than Obama ever could.
Have you been listening to Rush??? Mitt is already shooting himself in the foot by making the comparison between Bain Capital and what Obama did in the auto industry. By the time that November rolls around, Mitt will be as low in the polls as McCain was and Sarah Palin won’t be of any help this time, either. I’ve lost faith in her, completely.
Absolutely. Senator Paul Tsongas won the (Democrat) NH primary in 1992, but Bill Clinton got the nomination. Pat Buchanan won the Republican primary in 1996, but Bob Dole got the nomination.
I'm not sure that's comforting. The point is that the race is not anywhere near over - especially this year.
I realize that SC is the key to the nomination historically. Let’s see what happens, I don’t want to be too hasty, but things are looking like they are looking :(
Yes, it could, and hopefully it does.
It was too late a year ago.
Wake up.
McRomney cannot beat the kenyan. Were he to beat him then we would have a socialist president with a Republican label who would get a lot of things through the Republican Congress that the kenyan could not. Better the kenyan stays for four more years. Actually it is irrelevant. Both men are totalitarians and the elected Tea Party Congressmen seem strongly inclined in that direction also. Once these fellows are elected they don’t need the voters any more. Their constituency is the lobbyists and other money people. They get pensions and private enrichment such that it is more profitable for them to play the game and lose their seats after one term than to work for the voters.
Why try to stop it?
For Romney to be coronated, Obama must be defrocked.
Mitt is worse than the kenyan and can’t win anyway because there are too many of us who will not vote for a socialist just because he has a Republican tag or can’t vote for a pro abort at all. Romney and Obama are bound in same direction. It is only a matter of which will proceed faster and that is definitely arguable.
“There is no “too late” about it. Romney is the candidate of the Republican Party. It takes a Reagan working through at least a couple of election cycles to derail the Republican Elite and their Socialist establishment candidates. Reagans happen maybe twice in a millenium. We had ours.Another party would be necessary were there time. There is not time. The US has crossed the line toward totalitarianization some time between Bush 1 and Bush 2 and there is no going back.”
You are probably right but I am not ready to give up the fight yet.
Get it. But where is your strategy for how to beat him?
I don’t even think we could beat him in SC with Paul in the race. So I think the only way to decoronate Romney is to have one conservative come in 2nd, beating Paul.
Unless SC republicans turn out for Romney in smaller %s than polled to date, with Paul in, even if we herd cats and get every conservative in the state to vote for one guy, Romney wins SC.
And there is no reason for Paul to drop out. Plenty of money and time.
Buuut we should try herding cats. If everyone in SC, all you conservatives, voted for the same guy, he could beat ron Paul and come in 2nd. This will give our guy the mo he needs for FL, as well as showing Paul up as a spoiler candidate. Paul can be pointed out to be a vote for Romney and Obama.
Well, SC Freepers? Do you think you could all go for the same guy?
“Why try to stop it?
For Romney to be coronated, Obama must be defrocked.”
I was talking about his coronation as GOP nominee, not as President.
Didn’t read since so long but only one thing to say. We should all feel proud of Newt that he may be sacrificing his chances by taking Romney out. What a sacrifice since most feel Newt no longer a has chance. Sad, but few real Americans left.
“Get it. But where is your strategy for how to beat him?”
The strategy is obvious as you clearly stated in our response. We need to coalesce around one candidate. Mitt will lose in a head to head against any candidate other than Ron Paul so we just need to pick a candidate. I prefer Newt to Rick Santorum but I will take Rick over Mitt seven days a week and twice on sunday.
Sarah has become a rather timid pundit. She started out in life wanting to be a talking head. I had high hopes for her.
Sarah has become a rather timid pundit. She started out in life wanting to be a talking head. I had high hopes for her.
I fear there is a solid % of people who don’t listen to a word mitt says but think he loooks presidential. Otherwise I don’t get his appeal in SC.
I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has hopes of being tapped as Mitt Romney’s VP.
I disagree, but we'll see. Nothing would be worse than Obama getting re-elected.
No, I do my own thinking, thank you.
I have no idea why so many people take his word as gospel. He is reading all the same things we are reading, and he shares his opinion on the radio. But it's just one guy's opinion.
And we have a long way to go.
Most of us don’t take his word as Gospel. We like Rush because he so often articulates exactly what we have been thinking. It’s so good to hear your own thoughts articulated on the air, where such a large audience will hear them.
The best part is that Rush often connects the dots that stump the rest of us.
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