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It Is Not Too Late To Stop Romney's Coronation
http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2012/01/it-is-not-too-late-to-stop-romneys.html ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 01/11/2012 8:57:03 AM PST by libertarian neocon

I know many in the Republican Establishment media want to coronate Romney as the GOP nominee and get to the general election but there is no reason why we have to let them do it. Yes, he won in Iowa and New Hampshire and no GOP candidate has won the nomination without first winning in either Iowa or New Hampshire but, besides tradition, there is really no reason that needs to be true:

Most importantly, I would argue that we HAVE to stop Romney from being nominated. We just can't let the Republican Establishment media decide who our candidate is. It is effectively disenfranchising the vast majority of conservatives and is akin to the days when the political machines made the nominations. They were talking about Romney being inevitable before a single vote was cast! And while they would attack people like Rick Perry for a word that was painted over on a rock on a piece of property he leased, it was considered forbidden to even question Romney's tenure as CEO of Bain Capital, despite the fact that he uses is to provide evidence of his job creating skills! Somehow you are in league with the Occupy Wall Street folks if you question how Bain made millions off of companies they drove to bankruptcy through excess leverage and dividend payouts to themselves but it is okay to expect Newt to enumerate EXACTLY what he did while consulting for publicly traded companies. If we wanted to have politically correct restrictions on issues that we could or could not bring up about a candidate, we would be Democrats. It's not as if anyone has said that anything that Bain did should be illegal, they're just questioning whether you want someone like that to be President. Believing in free market capitalism doesn't mean you need to worship every capitalist. Otherwise we would constantly be bowing down to George Soros, Mike Bloomberg and the street corner drug dealer (technically a capitalist as well). It is also amazing how media types keep saying that Romney is actually a conservative, being able to point to nothing but his speeches and promises. Obama was middle of the road if you only looked at his speeches in 2008 and ignored his record. How did that work out?

Besides sticking it to the people who brought us George H.W. Bush, a great reason to stop Romney is that he would be a complete disaster both as the nominee and as President, if he is actually able to win. Please let me know when any of these country club establishment types has been good for the promotion of conservative ideals? How about never? There have been two Republicans who have done an effective job of promoting actual conservative ideals of small government and more freedom in the last 50 years and those are Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich. They both challenged the established order and won on their own terms despite being born to meager means. Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Dole, Bush II and McCain, they have all been disasters who have hurt the cause. What is the point of voting Republican when you get someone who acts like a Democrat. And that is exactly what we would be getting with Romney. You really think that independents are going to rush to his emotionally cut-off, vacuous, believe-in-nothing self, who is probably going to raise their taxes? Why would they? It's clear that they haven't been in either Iowa or New Hampshire. When you adjust for the Paul surge (given that he is a fringe candidate with borderline connections with the GOP) turnout actually went down in both Iowa and New Hampshire! Does that sound like people are excited? And just wait until every single Bain deal is picked apart with interviews with people whose lives were ruined by Romney. It's only the tip of the iceberg so far. Also, when people are down, they want someone to empathize with them. Romney has all the empathy of a wet sponge (kind of like George H.W. Bush). Romney is going to have a horrible time in the general election, he'd better hope Obama self-destructs (a good chance but not exactly guaranteed).

Even if Romney wins, it will be a disaster for anyone who believes in liberty. This guy with the timid 59 point plan brought to you by Bain Consulting is not the answer to our problems. He is going to tweak Obamacare, tweak the tax code (cut some taxes, raise some others), tweak our foreign policy, offering no real changes to the status quo. Does Romney strike you as someone who will suspend the environmental regulations that are keeping the United States from rightfully developing its energy resources? Nope. He is going to come in, and just like Obama, think about what he has to do to get re-elected. He will pander to Democrats to appear bipartisan and completely betray real Republicans. And Israel? Forget it. We will be stuck in the same place as before. All Romney has promised to do is to not criticize them publicly, that doesn't mean he actually agrees with them and will stop putting pressure on the Jewish state to negotiate with terrorists. After 4 years of a Romney Presidency, government will be bigger, our taxes will probably be higher and Congress will probably be in Democratic hands as the Tea Party support that helped propel us to victory in 2010, withers away after being betrayed in 2012.

Anyway, I know this is a long rant but I really feel strongly about this. We have to stop Romney, he is the antithesis of a Reagan Republican and will do more to destroy the Tea Party and the cause of liberty than Obama ever could.


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To: Semper911

Have you been listening to Rush??? Mitt is already shooting himself in the foot by making the comparison between Bain Capital and what Obama did in the auto industry. By the time that November rolls around, Mitt will be as low in the polls as McCain was and Sarah Palin won’t be of any help this time, either. I’ve lost faith in her, completely.


21 posted on 01/11/2012 9:54:44 AM PST by Eva
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To: cuban leaf
Has any candidate ever won NH but not gotten the nomination?

Absolutely. Senator Paul Tsongas won the (Democrat) NH primary in 1992, but Bill Clinton got the nomination. Pat Buchanan won the Republican primary in 1996, but Bob Dole got the nomination.

I'm not sure that's comforting. The point is that the race is not anywhere near over - especially this year.

22 posted on 01/11/2012 9:56:43 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: cuban leaf

I realize that SC is the key to the nomination historically. Let’s see what happens, I don’t want to be too hasty, but things are looking like they are looking :(


23 posted on 01/11/2012 10:11:35 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Soundthealarm

Yes, it could, and hopefully it does.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 10:13:25 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: libertarian neocon
There is no "too late" about it. Romney is the candidate of the Republican Party. It takes a Reagan working through at least a couple of election cycles to derail the Republican Elite and their Socialist establishment candidates. Reagans happen maybe twice in a millenium. We had ours.Another party would be necessary were there time. There is not time. The US has crossed the line toward totalitarianization some time between Bush 1 and Bush 2 and there is no going back. The totalitarian structures are all in place in the Laws that our Congress has passed and Republican and Democrat presidents have signed. The Tea Party congress was just as eager to turn over total power to the executive as the Democrats. When the Patriot Act was passed I immediately thought, great! but the Democrats will be in control with this power sooner or later. Then what? Now the Republicans are giving these powers to the executive. The USSC may disallow them but would a congress that would pass such a law and a president who would sign it pay any attention to the USSC? The Constitution is a dead letter.
25 posted on 01/11/2012 10:18:26 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: libertarian neocon

It was too late a year ago.

Wake up.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 10:20:05 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Semper911

McRomney cannot beat the kenyan. Were he to beat him then we would have a socialist president with a Republican label who would get a lot of things through the Republican Congress that the kenyan could not. Better the kenyan stays for four more years. Actually it is irrelevant. Both men are totalitarians and the elected Tea Party Congressmen seem strongly inclined in that direction also. Once these fellows are elected they don’t need the voters any more. Their constituency is the lobbyists and other money people. They get pensions and private enrichment such that it is more profitable for them to play the game and lose their seats after one term than to work for the voters.


27 posted on 01/11/2012 10:26:31 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: libertarian neocon

Why try to stop it?

For Romney to be coronated, Obama must be defrocked.


28 posted on 01/11/2012 10:29:05 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Mitt is worse than the kenyan and can’t win anyway because there are too many of us who will not vote for a socialist just because he has a Republican tag or can’t vote for a pro abort at all. Romney and Obama are bound in same direction. It is only a matter of which will proceed faster and that is definitely arguable.


29 posted on 01/11/2012 10:30:55 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus

“There is no “too late” about it. Romney is the candidate of the Republican Party. It takes a Reagan working through at least a couple of election cycles to derail the Republican Elite and their Socialist establishment candidates. Reagans happen maybe twice in a millenium. We had ours.Another party would be necessary were there time. There is not time. The US has crossed the line toward totalitarianization some time between Bush 1 and Bush 2 and there is no going back.”

You are probably right but I am not ready to give up the fight yet.


30 posted on 01/11/2012 10:32:12 AM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

Get it. But where is your strategy for how to beat him?

I don’t even think we could beat him in SC with Paul in the race. So I think the only way to decoronate Romney is to have one conservative come in 2nd, beating Paul.

Unless SC republicans turn out for Romney in smaller %s than polled to date, with Paul in, even if we herd cats and get every conservative in the state to vote for one guy, Romney wins SC.

And there is no reason for Paul to drop out. Plenty of money and time.

Buuut we should try herding cats. If everyone in SC, all you conservatives, voted for the same guy, he could beat ron Paul and come in 2nd. This will give our guy the mo he needs for FL, as well as showing Paul up as a spoiler candidate. Paul can be pointed out to be a vote for Romney and Obama.

Well, SC Freepers? Do you think you could all go for the same guy?


31 posted on 01/11/2012 10:33:57 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“Why try to stop it?

For Romney to be coronated, Obama must be defrocked.”

I was talking about his coronation as GOP nominee, not as President.


32 posted on 01/11/2012 10:34:15 AM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

Didn’t read since so long but only one thing to say. We should all feel proud of Newt that he may be sacrificing his chances by taking Romney out. What a sacrifice since most feel Newt no longer a has chance. Sad, but few real Americans left.


33 posted on 01/11/2012 10:34:24 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Yaelle

“Get it. But where is your strategy for how to beat him?”

The strategy is obvious as you clearly stated in our response. We need to coalesce around one candidate. Mitt will lose in a head to head against any candidate other than Ron Paul so we just need to pick a candidate. I prefer Newt to Rick Santorum but I will take Rick over Mitt seven days a week and twice on sunday.


34 posted on 01/11/2012 10:36:57 AM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: Eva

Sarah has become a rather timid pundit. She started out in life wanting to be a talking head. I had high hopes for her.


35 posted on 01/11/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Eva

Sarah has become a rather timid pundit. She started out in life wanting to be a talking head. I had high hopes for her.

I fear there is a solid % of people who don’t listen to a word mitt says but think he loooks presidential. Otherwise I don’t get his appeal in SC.


36 posted on 01/11/2012 10:42:07 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has hopes of being tapped as Mitt Romney’s VP.


37 posted on 01/11/2012 12:20:35 PM PST by Eva
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To: arthurus
Better the kenyan stays for four more years.

I disagree, but we'll see. Nothing would be worse than Obama getting re-elected.

38 posted on 01/11/2012 1:41:03 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Eva
Have you been listening to Rush?

No, I do my own thinking, thank you.

I have no idea why so many people take his word as gospel. He is reading all the same things we are reading, and he shares his opinion on the radio. But it's just one guy's opinion.

And we have a long way to go.

39 posted on 01/11/2012 1:54:12 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

Most of us don’t take his word as Gospel. We like Rush because he so often articulates exactly what we have been thinking. It’s so good to hear your own thoughts articulated on the air, where such a large audience will hear them.

The best part is that Rush often connects the dots that stump the rest of us.


40 posted on 01/11/2012 2:39:22 PM PST by Eva
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