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I’ll speak in generalities as I’m not an engineer (but I slept at a Holiday Inn once ;)

First, I’ll condense and say that this is of course a multi billion dollar project that we once had the Feds behind and monies allocated toward, so far smarter people than I with degrees and elected positions already determined that it is indeed possible and feasible.

As far as canals go, I’ll refer to the Mohave/SanDiego pipeline. The fence, as envisioned basically requires a lot of chainlink, razor wire and concrete. It requires earth moving, digging, rerouting and all the things that spring to mind in any large scale construction project.

Flood plains and environmental:

Lets say that you built the fence across the flood plain. Just brute forced it in. Point A to B.

It’s a fence. If the area floods, what’s the problem? I don’t see it. The water goes down and we do maintenance/repair and cleanup. Floods do not happen so often and at such magnitude that 1000 miles of fence are swept away.

And then again, therehere is nothing to say that any fence has to be 100% the same from gulf to Pacific. Construdtion projects over bodies of water like Lake Pochatrain Causeway (SP?) can be adapted to fence technology to deal with potentially ‘wet’ scenarios. Again, we have the technology to go to the moon and live for decades in Space...why should building a mere fence be beyond our ability as humans?

Canals are nothing more than a ditch. We diverted the Colorado River through several Hundred feet of Granite and I STRONGLY recommend people watch the History Channel’s show on constructing China’s 3 Gorges dam. THAT is water diversion.

Farming: Any water required can simply be piped via pump (which it is NOW) from the river through a fence into any additional Canals. Again. We do it now. Build more of what we already have/do now where needed.

Now for the PRICE of it all.

First, treaties etc with Mexico matter not a whit. This is a NatSec issue. As such, Greenie concerns can pound salt. Plants and animals are not superior or of more importance than American safety. Bottom line. Any one that says they are is a Communist not an American.

This gets paid for by ending foreign Aid to Mexico and other places around the globe that hate us.

It also gets paid for by the costs saved from issues I brought up in this prior discussion with another Freeper, John Valentine the other night...

As Prince once said, “Dig if you will, a picture...”

There is no question that this is a multi-billion dollar endeavor. Now consider the costs ANNUALLY of illegals on America across all 50 (or 57, depending) states

The medical costs that have put hospitals out of business (like 14-18 so far I think) that run into the 9 figures alone.

The education costs.
The social services costs
The unemployment of American citizens cost
the crime due to drugs costs...court/ jail, investigations etc.

One would have to really study the actual cost to America, but just the surface, one year would equate to the cost of the fence alone.

Then compare what Perry’s or any other similar plan would cost (and grow government agencies to boot for manpower on the ground and administrative)

Then there’s the cancellation of Foreign aid to Mexico which is not insignificant.

Then the costs we incur over immigration suits and laws rules and regs by the Democrats who sue and obstruct at the drop of the proverbial hat. AZ alone is dealing with that as you know. All the lawyers/ etc...and that’s separate from regular crime costs above.

OK, right there alone, one year and the fence is built and paid for without diving into minutia which would reveal massively more savings like an American doing a job over the table pays tax, an illegal under the table does not...and the wage is no longer being artificially depressed. Things like that.

Year 2 to whenever is just BP cost and maintenance, resulting in a multi billion savings to America and citizens.

That savings is annual.

Of course, this is the tip of the iceberg in discussing this all, but it covers a lot of it.

Crime is down.
BP are fewer and in FAR less danger of death.
Employment rises
Medical costs stabilize

And MOST IMPORTANTLY, the dems lose their illegal fueled power base and CANNOT play games with BP over “environmental concerns” and “rights” of illegals.

The laws are then rammed through to force voter ID, employers fined to oblivion for hiring ANY illegals (after a EVerify program is put in place nationally) and renters are forbidden by law from renting to illegals of ANY country.

Now, As this is a national security matter and provably so, and we have a billion times the technology we need to do it, the only thing to stop it is a Republican president and congress willing to defy the Democrats and make it happen.

Test area/run. My only opposition is that it’s been done in SoCal SanDiego already. The stats are there. It dropped illegals by orders of magnitude. They just need to deal with the tunnels via sensors/ground penetrating radar sweeps/patrols.

But another one is fine in the above manner with canals/crossings etc. It can’t fail and be that much less to do later when done fully. Also may spur mexico to deal with their issues.

To address Quicksilver:

In the patrolls that would still occur, do an ocasional run with Ground penetrating Radar. Tunnel problem solved.

And the MILLIONS of illegals and drugs crossing now cannot all fit into the couple tunnels we ‘could’ miss...net win = us.

Also, look up what it takes to tunnel under a river sometime. Drug gangs with shovels don’t cut it.