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To: BobL
Hell, why are you even on this site, if you’re that far to the left as far as education is concerned?

Now you're just back to ad hominems, unfounded assertions, and guilt by association. I guess when you can't defend your blind faith that one, and only one system for teaching reading is the one true system, or that anyone daring to suggest that a pure phonics based system does not work for everyone in every case, then logical fallacies must be pretty comforting.

Here's my problem with what you're doing. Actually, it's several problems. One is that you don't have any facts about me or what I do, and yet you assert repeatedly that I must be a government school employee and that I have an "agenda". If you bothered to read, you would at least suspect that this is not true from the fact that I homeschool my kids. You know nothing else about me. You don't know the mixture of phonics and dolch card work that finally broke through with my youngest. You don't know the work or research I've put into reading, math, language, grammar, science, and other curricula. You just continually demonstrate your ignorance and inability to engage in civilized discourse time and again with every post you make in response to me. As a result, I'll be civil but I'm sure not going to have any respect for your arguments or your credibility.

Two is that you write like a Kevin Trudeau scammer. That's why I think you may be practicing your sales techniques. There are schools using primarily phonics-based curricula. And with respect to one of the more infamous phonics programs marketed to homeschoolers and unknowing parents, many are still wondering why their child still can't read and those 100 lessons were not "easy" in any sense of the word.

Three is an alternative to two. You and your fellow travelers have been deliberately implying throughout this thread that anyone who did not adopt your one true faith is a bad parent. Maybe that's how you get your jollies. That one really pisses me off. Achilles2000 had one good post in this entire thing that actually attempted to address many of the critiques asserted against the bald and rambling manifesto that started the thread. Besides that, anyone who disagrees with you gets a response that strongly resembles the way I've seen JWs or Mormons sadly and pityingly correct the unsure, insecure, or undecided. The false pity and the attacks on people who disagree with you are not convincing me of the rightness of your opinion.

Fourth is the worst. The devolution of this thread into communist plot conspiracy theory mongering gives people who actually are involved in bettering the system or opting out of it altogether a bad name. The thread reads like it was scripted by a bunch of kooks, again with Achilles2000's post and honest attempt at discourse excepted.

It's sad - looking at your tag line, we probably agree on many things.

116 posted on 01/04/2012 9:14:16 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: FateAmenableToChange

“Now you’re just back to ad hominems, unfounded assertions, and guilt by association...Two is that you write like a Kevin Trudeau scammer. “

LOL - pretty much all I needed to read from your post. You are really whacked out. And yes, you are one hell of a crappy parent if you really believe the crap you spout. I feel for your kids.


117 posted on 01/04/2012 9:33:05 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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