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To: mnehring
I am no Ron Paul supporter, but he is somewhat correct that the Israelis supported Hamas. They did so at a time when the world was a very different place than it is now. Back in the 70’s and 80’s the menace was Communism. Even in the Middle East the Palestinian terror groups were all secular left wing outfits. How soon we forget George Habash and the PFLP, and Abu Nidal, who Saddam had whacked because he knew too much.Does anybody remember that the PLO operated with others like Carlos the Jackal and the Baader Meinhoff Gang. Just like the rest of the Western World, Israel saw Islamic groups as a counterweight to the leftist PLO in the occupied territories. Many saw Islam as a weapon to be used against the Soviets and their puppets. Even during the 1982 Lebanon War the same people who make up the core support for Hezbollah welcomed the Israelis as liberators in South Lebanon. These groups were seen as foes of the PLO, both Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza and Hezbollah in South Lebanon. At the same time we provided support to Islamic groups in Afghanistan. Some remained lifelong allies like Massood in the Panjshir Valley, while others like Hekmatyar we are fighting today.
The fact that Israel supported Hamas 30 years ago is no secret. I learned this in a book I read about the original Intifada back in the early 90’s. It was written by journalists from the Jerusalem Post. The real response is so what. They and everybody else did not foresee that this would turn into a real Frankenstein's monster. The whole foreign policy establishment of the western world saw Islam as some conservative religion that was ready to battle Communism. That it turned against us was not predicted by anybody at the time. Even at the time of the rise of the Ayatollahs, the talk of military action was not of fighting Iran, but of taking on the Soviets inside Iran if they invaded the place.
In context, the Israelis were acting no different than anybody else did during the Cold War.
30 posted on 12/29/2011 11:14:09 PM PST by gusty
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Israel allowed Hama’s non-violdent predicessor to operate Foolish, but we allow CAIR, MPAC and the MSA to operate in America.


31 posted on 12/30/2011 12:42:33 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Israel allowed Hama’s non-violdent predicessor to operate Foolish, but we allow CAIR, MPAC and the MSA to operate in America.


32 posted on 12/30/2011 12:42:56 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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