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To: YHAOS; A_perfect_lady; Lakeshark; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts

perfect lady: But I don’t feel cornered at all

Spirited: Being cornered is not your problem, having no “self” (soul) is. Six centuries before Jesus Christ, Buddha already knew that if there is no God—the supernatural God and not an immanentist version-—then there is no source for ‘self’ (soul, mind, free will).

If atheism, or scientific materialism, immanentism and evolutionism for that matter are true, then man is nothing but an empty shell. He is a mindless, soulless nothing, and so are you, perfect lady.

Negation of ‘self’ is nihilism, and the impossibility of living within its’ parameters is made evident every time an atheist (or materialist, etc) reasons, conceptualizes, theorizes, argues, dreams, imagines or argues with believers, as is taking place in this thread.

God the Father IS.


432 posted on 01/06/2012 2:19:49 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; A_perfect_lady; betty boop; YHAOS; Lakeshark; marron; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts
Thank you so very much for sharing your testimony and insights, dear spirited irish!

God the Father IS.

I join in testifying that God is not a hypothesis. He lives. His Name is I AM. I've known Him for a half century and counting.

When a poster declares that he does not believe, it strikes me as bizarre as if he said that he does not believe my brother exists. I've known my brother my entire life but I do not expect everyone else I know to also know him and yet it would be bizarre for them to deny his existence simply because they do not know him.

Not everyone has the gift of "ears to hear" to know Him.

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. – John 8:43

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Cor 2:13

Neither miracles nor reasoning can reveal Him to a spiritually deaf person.

And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Ye have seen all that the LORD did before your eyes in the land of Egypt unto Pharaoh, and unto all his servants, and unto all his land; The great temptations which thine eyes have seen, the signs, and those great miracles: Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. And I have led you forty years in the wilderness: your clothes are not waxen old upon you, and thy shoe is not waxen old upon thy foot. - Deuteronomy 29:2-5

For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. - I Cor 18:22-24

God's Name is I AM.

434 posted on 01/06/2012 8:26:16 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: spirited irish
He is a mindless, soulless nothing, and so are you, perfect lady.

I'm not mindless, but I'm definitely soulless. So are you. So is everyone. A "soul" is a human fantasy, growing mostly out of an absolute inability to comprehend that you will one day cease to exist. Most of humanity's ego simply cannot accept that. "I? Cease to exist? Something as wonderful and complex as I am?? Impossible!"

435 posted on 01/06/2012 8:39:12 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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To: spirited irish; A_perfect_lady; Lakeshark; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins; ...
It’s true, I think, to declare Atheism is to declare that one has no soul. No offense. By definition, it is a self-confession.

Thanks for the comeback.

444 posted on 01/06/2012 11:28:32 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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