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To: Lakeshark
No, my first sentence was exactly correct. The lack of belief in your god is not a belief system. You are trying to start there (as many have tried before you) because you hope to maneuver the atheist into positing their "beliefs" so that you can put them on the defensive, rather than defend your own belief system. But atheists don't have a belief system in and of itself. Some embrace systems, but they tend to be value-based rather than belief-based. We may have values, we may have priorities, we may operate on assumptions (until they are proven wrong, in which case we adapt and keep going) but there is no belief system.

Which is why you can't tell me what I believe. I don't blame you for not trying. You can't describe what is not there.

316 posted on 12/31/2011 9:57:58 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
Your sentence may have been grammatically correct, but honestly it had no logic to it.

I started with your own sentence, asked you to prove it, and so far you just keep moving the goal posts around without showing us why your "unbeliefs" are really not simply your beliefs.

I'm sticking with my challenge to you, and honestly you should be able to do better than what you're doing if you are the logician you claim to be.

317 posted on 12/31/2011 10:03:24 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: A_perfect_lady; Lakeshark
The lack of belief in your god is not a belief system.

It sure enough is. EVERYONE has a belief system of some kind, a worldview if that suits you better.

Some include God, some don't, but it is still a system which operates on *beliefs* as it operates on something that can neither be proved or disproved objectively.

322 posted on 12/31/2011 10:13:30 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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