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To: Oldpuppymax

I have had a number of sticky points in regards to this bombing.... the fact that a survivor was walking between the building and the truck when the building blew up, and was blown ACROSS the street, and not into the building, the fact that the third story columns in the center of the building sheared clean instead of the front street level columns ( and the fact that the truck bomb could not have supplied sufficient force to shear these columns at the location they were sheared at ).. among other things.... but what bothers me the most is that I have seen all kinds of charts and graphs, but I have yet to see an actual picture of the bomb crater.... a blast with enough force to bring down this building ( and cleanly shear the third story center columns ) should have left at least a 25’ deep crater.... could someone settle my mind and produce a photo of the actual crater?


3 posted on 12/26/2011 9:05:09 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

I recall a CNN reporter running along with a firemen after someone shouted a bomb would go off. That firemen just came from the building and he told the reporter that he SAW, HE SAW explosives attached to all 4 corners of buildings but there were some that did not go off. I doubt this firemen was lying. That is very telling. The image of the reporter and firemen never left me and what he said has remined in my memory.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:06 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: joe fonebone
Consider the likelihood that ATF had a substantial cache of military weapons on the site, including unauthorized and improperly stored supplies of C4 and other explosives.

Perhaps the FBI had an informant in the bomber group - who turned out to be a triple agent and misinformed his handlers as to the time and location of the operation. Or perhaps the informant really did not know.

A brew of malevolent conspiracy and government incompetence can go a long way.

So a large truck filled with nitrate-fertilized based bomb gets in front of the ATF build, and when it goes off, it cooks off the armory inside.

McViegh is captured at a "routine traffic stop" by an astonishingly lucky state trooper. The report of a third man at the Ryder truck rental along with McVeigh and Nichols gets buried. The McVeigh connection with a Filipino Muslim group and his travels to the Philippines gets buried.

All of the surveillance video of the explosion goes "missing". Seismic records from the US Geological survey, which according to their geologists clearly indicate **two explosive events** are ignored. Those same geologists and their entire group are subsequently laid off due to "budget reductions".

Nothing to see here. Move along.

15 posted on 12/26/2011 9:35:18 AM PST by flamberge (What next?)
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To: joe fonebone

The earliest reports I heard on the radio said an undetonated bomb was found inside the building.


30 posted on 12/26/2011 11:46:26 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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