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To: DJ Elliott

here we have a picture of a M1 Abrams MBT destroyed in Iraq by an insurgency that had none of things you mentioned.

here we have another picture of an M1 Abrams MBT destroyed in Iraq by an insurgency that had none of things you mentioned

here we have a picture of yet another M1 Abrams MBT destroyed in Iraq by an insurgency that had none of things you mentioned

BFV versus IED...in Iraq

M1 Abrams destroyed April 2003 outside Baghdad.

Abrams versus IED summer of 2005

all in all, I'd say it looks like you're wrong.

23 posted on 12/28/2011 10:40:46 AM PST by RC one (I will not vote for the gun grabbing, draft dodging, pro-choice, so called Republican Mitt Romney.)
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To: RC one

Ever heard of mine warfare?
That is what IEDs are - hillbilly mines.

Total US Abrams losses for the war = 18.
A reinforced Company’s worth...

Several of your photos are the same tank from differing angles.

MSM likes to do that to give the impression of more action than there really was...

The last time that any Iraqi formation larger than a Battlaion fought against the US was May 2003.
Small scall unit actions [Bn and below] are LIC.
And mine-warfare is the weapon of the weak.
Area denial vice area control weapon...

22 years in USN as an Intel Speciallist.
You are quoting the enemy propagandists - not citing fact.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 11:58:05 AM PST by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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To: RC one

PS Your response is classic propaganda.
Those photos have nothing to do with the ISF’s capabilities.
They only point out that any armor can be defeated by mines.

However, unless the Iraqis want to mine the entire country, those mines have limited effect.

The Iranians will just march teenagers over them to clear them like they did in the Iran-Iraq War. Iran does not care about casualties like we do...


25 posted on 12/28/2011 12:04:26 PM PST by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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