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To: James Oscar

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MA: I believe that you paint the picture much too dark. It is true that this is a subject more suited to Hollywood than casual conversation. But it is not true that people would rather not know.

We must never put ourselves into a position where we believe that information should be filtered. The heart of science is that knowledge is shared. Even our conjectures, opinions, and observations are distributed. The very soul of science has been tempered on ridicule and even persecution. The road to understanding our world is paved with open discussion.

So being challenged in ones belief is no roadblock to any true person of science. And if I may say so, it should never be an impediment to your profession as well.

Q: Touche MA. I didn't mean any offense.

MA: I know that.

Q: It is just that I would like to go even farther into your observations but I fully intend to publish your comments on the Internet. And I do not care to diminish your reputation.

MA: Laughing - my reputation?

Q: Well you know what I mean.

MA: Child yes I do, and God bless you for caring but I am so far past such considerations that it seems a bit unnecessary. These are the days in my life where I am much more concerned with God's opinion of my actions than of man's.

So perhaps we can agree to just have our little discussion and let others form their own opinion. OK

Q: Good by me.

MA: What is it that you would like to know?

Q: MA, I have read some of your writing about the great apes, do you feel they are near extinction?

MA: Well the non-human great apes are not doing that well, but we humans are quite successful.

Q: Are people great apes?

MA: Why yes, didn't you know that?

Q: I am embarrassed to say no.

MA: All non-human great apes are endangered species. Actually there are very few breeding populations outside of captivity. It is a sad story and it is not getting any better. Great apes or Hominidae not only include humans but chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans.

In Africa the "bushmeat" trade is wrecking havoc on the primate population in the wild, also there are periodic outbreaks of Ebola killing breeding adults.

We have about 200,000 western gorillas and only about 6,000 eastern gorillas left. It is crunch time for their species and with the exception of those in captivity the prognosis is poor.

MA: These are our closest relatives. This is not an abstract lesson in Biology - this is real and it very bad.

72 posted on 12/15/2011 5:42:02 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

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It is the times, and we are not immune to this tragedy either.

MA: Homo erectus and Homo neanderthalensis, at one point in time, were in exactly the same situation as our mountain gorilla is now.

Their populations became isolated and their breeding numbers declined to the point where their species failed.

Q: Well our numbers aren’t declining.

MA: No they are not. We have about 6.8 billion humans spread out over every ecosystem on earth and a few brave souls living off the earth in orbit.

We are, in fact, living in a human population explosion.

Tens of thousands of years passed before our species reached the one billion mark, around 1804, it then took only 130, 33, 15, 13 and 12 years to add each succeeding billion.

This accelerating rate of increase is what is meant by the term population explosion. Not that hard to see really.

We are expanding as a species at a faster and faster pace.

Which brings us to the math part of the question.

Would you like to take a break before we get into your favorite subject - she said laughing.

Q: MA knows that I hate math.


73 posted on 12/15/2011 5:43:44 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

Thank you for posting this!


133 posted on 01/24/2012 4:51:33 PM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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