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To: dirtboy
Regarding McCain, his stance on amnesty did him no good with Hispanics in 2008.

Wait! Is freaking McCain even in this race?

Funny, Gingrich is opposed to a border fence. Opposed to e-verify.

Where does he say that? You're just making stuff up now. Aren't you?

Not the sign, to me, of someone serious about combating illegal immigration.

And what do you think the Red Card Solution is? Look it up.

And seriously, the BIG difference between 2007 and now in this amnesty debate is the economy. Can you seriously back an outfit - Kriebel - that wants companies to be able to bring in low-cost third-world labor into this country at a time when millions of Americans are out of work?

Kriebel is a member of the Heritage Foundation. U.S. companies have been bringing in temporary labor from Mexico, since forever. There are crops in the field now, going to waste because there's no one to pick them. What is a Green Card?

Yep, humanity for the illegals. Guest-worker jobs for non-Americans. And out-of-work Americans can go suck eggs. THAT to me is the biggest issue here.

If they are living in Occupy Camps instead of competing for jobs, then yes, they can go suck eggs. There are plenty of jobs now, but some Americans would rather lay around complaining and protesting, or collecting 99-weeks unemployment, than work.

104 posted on 11/24/2011 9:52:52 AM PST by NaturalBornConservative (The Author)
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To: NaturalBornConservative
Where does he say that? You're just making stuff up now. Aren't you?

Uh, no, I am not.

Newt Gingrich on Immigration - Former House Speaker Backs More Moderate Policy Than Most Republican Rivals

He differs from most of his rivals in not advocating a border fence between the United States and Mexico

Gingrich Shows 'Compassion' for Illegal Aliens He Helped Stay Rooted in U.S.

As Speaker of the House, Gingrich was in the pivotal position to help Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Lamar Smith push through the 1996 comprehensive bill that set up the verification program that eventually was named "E-Verify."

The Commission had found that illegal immigration was booming in the 10 years since the 1986 blanket amnesty because illegal aliens had found it was still easy to obtain and keep U.S. jobs.

What did Speaker Gingrich do?

Those of us involved in that fight know that we were constantly and desperately seeking support from Gingrich which didn't come.

Instead, Gingrich tried to kill the new job verification system entirely. Fortunately, the killer amendment he supported failed. No thanks to Gingrich, we have an E-Verify system today.

But the E-Verify system is entirely VOLUNTARY today because of another House vote which Gingrich won. That vote was to make sure that the verification system would NOT be MANDATORY for employers.

So whatever Gingrich may say now is undone by what he did when he had the power to influence the development of E-verify.

So you don't even have your history straight about Newt. No point in further debate with the deliberately ignorant. Later.

106 posted on 11/24/2011 10:01:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: NaturalBornConservative
There are plenty of jobs now, but some Americans would rather lay around complaining and protesting, or collecting 99-weeks unemployment, than work.

Man, you are a lying troll.

Alabama's unemployment rate dropped a half-percentage-point when their anti-illegal immigration law was enacted.

Are there no lies you won't regurgitate to hold onto your otherwise-indefensible position here?

108 posted on 11/24/2011 10:03:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: NaturalBornConservative
Kriebel is a member of the Heritage Foundation.

You mean the same Heritage Foundation that liked Romneycare?

Heritage is not infallible. Far from it.

111 posted on 11/24/2011 10:19:56 AM PST by dirtboy
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